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Reading another thread made me think of something I saw on the TV:

Fox News. Fair. Balanced.

It made me think of Sesame Street: Which of these things are not like the others.
 
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I will be thankful if someone elaborate following


It made me think of Sesame Street: Which of these things are not like the others.


 
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I have no idea either, and I am a naturalized US citizen. It must be a reference to some cultural phenomenon in America before the Great Depression.
 
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Sesame Street was and is a wonderful Public Television show for pre-schoolers. It teaches basic fundamental skills such as reading and counting through short skits (usually populated by hand puppets).
One of the skits is a matching game. They show three things, and the viewer has to guess which of the three things is not like the other two. It might show an apple, a bicycle and an orange. The bicycle would be the thing that doesn't belong.
To tie back to Paul's post, he's saying that in the phrase "Fox News. Fair. Balanced." one of those terms doesn't belong, and the implication is that it is Fox News.
Of course, the humor loses something in the translation .
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[ September 03, 2003: Message edited by: Joe Pluta ]
 
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It made me think of Sesame Street: Which of these things are not like the others.


To clarify for those who aren't familiar with this. It's from the kids show Sesame Street, which I believe begain sometime around 1970. There were four objects/kids presented and three of them shared some kind of similarity or were performing similar tasks that the fourth one wasn't, and the idea was to identify which one didn't belong.
Naturally there was a song to go with this...

Three of these things belong together
Three of these things are kind of the same
Can you guess which one of these doesn't belong here?
Now it's time to play our game (time to play our game).


or...

Three of these kids belong together
Three of these kids are kind of the same
But one of these kids is doing his (her) own thing
Now it's time to play our game
It's time to play our game.


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It might show an apple, a bicycle and an orange. The bicycle would be the thing that doesn't belong.
It must be nice to be a kid in America. All that I can remember from my kindergarden education in the former USSR is that Lenin never lied to his mother and that the purpose of the education was to prepare the young people to become the "communism builders".
 
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Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:
It might show an apple, a bicycle and an orange. The bicycle would be the thing that doesn't belong.
It must be nice to be a kid in America. All that I can remember from my kindergarden education in the former USSR is that Lenin never lied to his mother and that the purpose of the education was to prepare the young people to become the "communism builders".


Sesame Street being worldwide and all, I have it on good authority that in the Soviet version of that game it was a little tougher. They would show four kids and you have to try to figure out which one was the capitalist.
 
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Thanks to all for elaborating it

Originally posted by Eugene Kononov:
It must be nice to be a kid in America.


Time - 1970
Place - India
Item - TV
Indian: TV[most of the times pronounced 'TB' among Hindi speaking people] is dangerous disease
AW I used to have tons of free time to play outside and read comics, books, spent time on my other hobbies like painting or collecting match boxes etc, till we bought TV[1984] and now I see that kids dont play outside much, read any book at all
I think because of TV todays kids are missing something in their life
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Sesame Street being worldwide and all, I have it on good authority that in the Soviet version of that game it was a little tougher. They would show four kids and you have to try to figure out which one was the capitalist.
Actually, it was even tougher that that. The role model for all young Russians in the former USSR was Pavlik Morozov, who turned in his father to bolshevik authorities. His father was hiding the food from the expropriation by the communists so that his family could survive the winter. This story had an interesting outcome: the father was executed by the bolsheviks, the food was found and expropriated, Pavlik Morozov was shot by his father's sympatizers, and the rest of Pavlik's family died from hunger.
Posthumously, Pavlik became the symbol and the ideal model citizen of the country where loyalty to one's family, honesty, freedom, and morality were to be happily sacrifized for the collective will, public welfare, and the benefit of future society. Kinda like "Think not what your country can do for you, think what you can do for your country" instead of "Think not what you can do for your country, think what you can do for yourself".
JFK's quote aside, the communist ideas are so appealing to the masses, that they are often subscribed to even in the democratic countries. Several of the Marx requirements outlined in the Communist Manifesto have been successfully adopted in the modern USA, -- free high school education, nationalization of certain industries, and a few more. What's even more sticky is that definitive notion of badness when describing someone as selfish or self-centered.
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When I read Paul's post I was thinking about a joke we heard. "Medical service can be free, high-quality, and open for everyone. Now any *real* medical service can have no more than two of those qualities." Which is:
free, high-quality, NOT open for everyone - for our communist leader
free, open for everyone, NOT high-quality -- for the rest of the Soviet people
high-quality, open for everyone, NOT free - well this is a free society, I suppose...
 
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Speaking about Pavlik Morozov, I just read that Soros gave a $7000 grant for reconstruction of his museum!
(Link, Russian)
 
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Sesame Street was on Soviet TV in late 80s. It was a popular show.
Speaking of Pavlik Morozov, I don't really know how much of his story is true and what was added by propoganda to brainwash people.
 
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Here it is said that his mother incited him to tell on his father, because this father left his family for another woman! Nothing political.
 
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Here it is said that his mother incited him to tell on his father, because this father left his family for another woman! Nothing political.
You missed the point, Map. It doesn't really matter what motivated the son. What matters is that under communism, you become a national hero for turning in your father to authorities. When respect and loyalty to your state and the collective benefit override respect and loyalty to your family and the individual will, you end up with the inhumanity.
 
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No, I did not miss the point, I agree with you. I said "nothing political" about real events (or what is considered real now), what Soviet propaganda made out of it is a totally different question.
But these relationships between "loyalty to your state" and "loyalty to your family" is a bit complicated matter. What if you are an Iraqi boy and you know you father is preparing something against current administration? Would you turn him in? No? This isn't totally congruent to Pavlik Morosov's story, I am interested in a broader discussion about how would you resolve a conflict between "loyalty to your country" and "loyalty to your family".
 
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What if you are an Iraqi boy and you know you father is preparing something against current administration? Would you turn him in?
If I were a decent polititian, I would turn my father in. If I were a decent human being, I would not. My hope is that the Iraqi children (and children everywhere else) are encouraged to be the latter.
 
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