Indian cricket team in Australia

[Karthik Guru]

Not sure how many australians hang out here. The indians will be there by this weekend.
do u expect us to compete?
ofcourse we know that one of our guys will but am doubtful about the rest.

[Paul McKenna]

The Indians always get thrashed Down Under, just like the Aussies have never been able to win a test series in India. I think one of the primary reasons for this is the fitness factor. The Aussies are power hitters, they have the strength to hit a six in SCG. I faint simply looking at the photo of SCG (Sydney Cricket Ground), I dont know if the cricket teams fares any better..
Anyway I like to watch a good match.. and the only team that is capable of competing with Aussies in Australia are the South Africans.

[Andres Gonzalez]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
The Indians always get thrashed Down Under, just like the Aussies have never been able to win a test series in India.

I know a little bit about cricket, but I do know that this week australia won a game (or a "test") against India played in India. Wasn't this a test series?

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Andres Gonzalez:

I know a little bit about cricket, but I do know that this week australia won a game (or a "test") against India played in India. Wasn't this a test series?

It was tri-OneDay series..
And no doubt Australia is best team now in world.
South africa is good also but I think India and SA can be out at same level with Pak.

[Andres Gonzalez]

Originally posted by R K Singh:

It was tri-OneDay series..
And no doubt Australia is best team now in world.
South africa is good also but I think India and SA can be out at same level with Pak.

Then what's the difference between a "test series" and a "tri-OneDay" series?

[Pradeep bhatt]

Andres
I am surprised that you dunno cricket ..I hope you know rugby atleast

[HS Thomas]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
The Indians always get thrashed Down Under, just like the Aussies have never been able to win a test series in India.

I seem to vaguely remember a team with Kapil Dev in it winning Down Under.
Could it have been in New Zealand ?
Good article [Challenges] Indian cricketers The same old argument.
regards
[ November 19, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]

[Andres Gonzalez]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Andres
I am surprised that you dunno cricket ..I hope you know rugby atleast

Rugby, yes! I like Ronaldo and David beckahm
I went to Australia-Scotland quarter finals for the Rugby World Cup 2003 (even though I don't understand all the rules). I figured it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
back to my question, what's the difference between a "test series" and a "tri-OneDay" series?

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:

Anyway I like to watch a good match.. and the only team that is capable of competing with Aussies in Australia are the South Africans.

I disagree.
Let me re-phrase :
The only team that is capable of beating Australia is the Australia A team in Australia or India in India.

[ November 19, 2003: Message edited by: V�r�n Kha�n� ]

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
just like the Aussies have never been able to win a test series in India.

They did win in 1969 under Bill larry (sorry if i mis-spelled the name).

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by HS Thomas:

I seem to vaguely remember a team with Kapil Dev in it winning Down Under.
Could it have been in New Zealand ?
regards
[ November 19, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]

Indians drew a series 1-1 in Aus. in 1979. Yeah Kapil was in it along with the famous four spinners.
Apart from that I remember only two series that India won ""abroad"".
The 1971 *sunny victory against the Windies (1-0) and 1986 against the David Gower's army (2-0).

[HS Thomas]

1979 I didn't watch cricket. You must mean 1989 , Varun.
Though I kind of remember it much more recently than that. Possibly
a one day match.
regards

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Andres Gonzalez:

Then what's the difference between a "test series" and a "tri-OneDay" series?

Oh I should have avoided tri word.
AW tri-one day series the one day series in which 3 countries participate.
One day are played in one day and test match is played for 5 days. Now days because of fast pace of life people prefer one-day matches more than test matchs.

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by HS Thomas:
1979 I didn't watch cricket. You must mean 1989 , Varun.
Though I kind of remember it much more recently than that. Possibly
a one day match.
regards

Oh! I was talking about a 5 day test match series.

[Pradeep bhatt]

India will loose all the matches in Australia. No doubt!

[Karthik Guru]

ok,
Aus-3, India-1
man of the series: tendulkar
Is that as good as having lost the series from the Aussie perspective

[Pradeep bhatt]

India wont win a test match against Austrlaia. The bext they could possibly do is to draw which I doubt as well.

[Varun Khanna]

ok,
Aus-3, India-1

Is this possible? Can we get 20 Aussie wickets? line-up where Gilchrist comes at no.7 ... Can India be consistent for 5 days against Aussies?

If India can play full 5 days of a test match that will be as good as a victory for us ... !!!

man of the series: tendulkar

Yeah this is possible ... very much possible

[basha khan]

cricket is really a collaborative game.
if bowler collaborate with batsman,batsman will hit boundary or sixer.if batsman collaborate with bowler,batsman will turn out by giving a catch or be bowled!!.it's a test of collaborative ability of players.
better collaboration,better cricket.but it needs better planning before starting the match.that is called 'matchfixing'.
i wish the viewers also start collaborating to make cricket more wonderfull and enjoyable.
---
basha

[Pradeep bhatt]

If India can play full 5 days of a test match that will be as good as a victory for us ... !!!

The test match will be over in 2-3 days! Good for me because I can save some power. Better than loosing on the last day!
Varun, can you please give some expert comment?

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

Varun, can you please give some expert comment?

Okey here is the comment -->
/* Pray for India */
[ November 20, 2003: Message edited by: V�r�n Kha�n� ]

[Pradeep bhatt]

http://in.rediff.com/cricket/2003/nov/20gav.htm

[Ashik Uzzaman]

I wish, Sachin could smash Aussies this time in Australia, specially the pacer trio!
--- Ashik

[Mani Ram]

Originally posted by karthik Guru:
ofcourse we know that one of our guys will

I would rather say some of out guys will! Sachin, Dravid, Sourav & Laxman all have the talent. So, I expect some good innings from them.
But I wouldn't bet all of them delivering good at the same time to win a match! That's the problem

[Mani Ram]

Originally posted by Paul McKenna:
The Aussies are power hitters, they have the strength to hit a six in SCG.

You can hit a six effortlessly, if you time the ball well!
No need for physical fitness (I'm not talking about the pinch-hitters here). The problem is that the Aussies bowl too well that you can't time your shots

Anyway I like to watch a good match.. and the only team that is capable of competing with Aussies in Australia are the South Africans.

...and the only team that was capable of competing. I'm not very confident now.
I would bet on the Kiwis rather!
[ November 20, 2003: Message edited by: Mani Ram ]

[Mani Ram]

Originally posted by R K Singh:

It was tri-OneDay series..

Tri-nation One day series.

[Mani Ram]

Personally I see a 4-0 victory for Australia, unless the rain spoils the figures
If the Indians can manage a draw or 2, that will be a great achievement. If they win a match, it's a a jackpot. If they can win the series - well, it is match-fixing

[Mani Ram]

Personally I see a 4-0 victory for Australia, unless the rain spoils the figures
If the Indians can manage a draw or 2, that will be a great achievement. If they win a match, it's a a jackpot. If they can win the series - well, it is match-fixing

[Pradeep bhatt]

India will also struggle to get into tri series final also.
Aussies will bury the Indian team in the Australian desert.
.

would bet on the Kiwis rather!

Mani Ram you are great
Kiwis are the only team who can defeat the Aussies

[Varun Khanna]

Good news:
Changes in ICC rules
Seeing the grossly unequal matches between India and australia, ICC has
formulated special rules in India - Australia matches. Here they are
1. Team Composition:
There shall be severe restrictions on the australian
team composition. Any player having the name Ponting, gilchrist, or hayden
cannot be part of the team. There can be no more that 9 players in the
australian team.
For the Indian team, there are a few relaxations: There shall be 25
members of the team, of them 11 will be batsmen, there will also be 10
bowlers, and 2 coke/pepsi representatives and 2 bookies.
2. Match duration: (india - 50 overs, Australia - 25 overs)
If india bats first, and as expected score lesser that 200 then the
indian score will be doubled. That is, a score of 180 becomes 360. If however
Indian team gets out for lesser that 150, then the indian score will be
320. of Score greater than 200 by indian team is not considered possible,
so no rules have been formulated in that case.
Australia will have to make the runs made by india in half the number of
overs that India gets. To save the valuable faces/ bodies of indian
players, dangerous hitting by any aurstalian batsman will not be allowed.
That is if an australian batsman hits a bowl by an indian bowler, the
speed of the bowl after it leaves the bat shall not be more than 20 kms
per hour. If that happens, 5 runs would be deducted from the australian
team score. If the australian batsman gets tempted by the delicious
indian bowling and hits a six, 25 runs shall be deducted from the australian
team score. Hitting 2 consecutive sixes means a ban for two matches.
3. Toss -- There shall be toss of course. If ponting wins the toss, then
india will bat, and if ganguly wins the toss, then also india will bat.
4. LBW -- no indian batsmen can be given out lbw under any circumstances.
However, when India is bowling, if by chance any bowler manages to hit
the pads of an australian batsman, he shall be given out lbw.
5. Bouncer rule--- any bowl of an australian batsman over knee high would
be considered a bouncer.
6. Missed catches win the matches--- For every two catches missed by an
Indian fielder (specially Laxman and Bhajji) one australian batsman
should be given out. And which batsman should be given out is all not in the
discretionary powers of the umpire but should be done in consultation
with the two batsmen on the pitch at that time (to ask them that who would
give the sacrifice). Otherwise critics may call it unjustified and fingers
will be raised on the umpires.
7. Field Restrictions--- Aussies should not be allowed to save more than
one four (or boundary) in every 10 overs. If they do so then one of the
players will be given a red card, and the team will then have to play
with 1 player less on the field. Again the decision is not to be taken by
umpires on their own but Captain of the Indian team should be allowed to
choose the one who should leave the ground.In case any australian fielder
is seen doing this regularly, inspite of warnings by umpires, he might
even be given a year long ban.....this is a serious offence when playing
against India in India.

[Pradeep bhatt]

is a serious offence when playing
against India in India.

What about India in Australia?
Varun, isn't it time to sleep?

[Pradeep bhatt]

15 Reasons for Final loss
1. sehwaag's mom's cellphone had no currency left
2. hayden ate ganguly's sona chandi chawanparaash
3.sachin's tyre got punctured and boost got expired
4. due to pesticides in pepsi and cola others were not well and in a hurry to leave the field and go to loo...........
5. Sachin's Britannia biscuits were eaten by Aus team.
6. Jammy's (Dravid's) Jam was spoiled, so he could not ate that
7. Sachin's Victor was missing, so he was upset
8. Videocon to match gone.
9 Because the Aussi used the Kiwi shoe Polish to knock the indians out with their outshine.
10. kyonki kal Sachin aur Sehwag ne Adidas ke Joote nahin pahene
11. Dravid forgot to wear the Reebok shoes
12. Kaif was too busy in eating the "Saif and Kaif" cheeps
13. Gaguly, Sachin and Bhajji were exhausted after a shoot for Mtv Fully Faltoo
14. Indian team was in hurry to ride the Ambition bike given by Ganguly.
15. all viewers ate lays chips sponsored by australian captain and cheered for them

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
15 Reasons for Final loss

[Mani Ram]

Victoria v Indians (Score at lunch)

A Chopra              c Roach            b Harrop   2
V Sehwag              c Hodge            b Inness  23
S Ramesh              not out                      23
R Dravid              c Moss             b Inness   0
SR Tendulkar          not out                       6
Extras                (lb 1, nb 1)                  2
Total                 (3 wickets, 29 overs)        56

This is aganist a bowling attack of Inness, Harrop, Moss & Harvey (I haven't even heard about them except for Harvey!)
Hmmmmm....the worst possible way to start the tour and an indication of how the results will be

[Pradeep bhatt]

Live Scorecards from Wisden CricInfo - www.cricinfo.com
India in Australia, 2003/04
Victoria v Indians
Melbourne Cricket Ground
25,26,27 November 2003 (3-day match)
Result:
Toss: Indians
Umpires: RG Patterson and JD Ward
First-Class debut: BD Harrop (Victoria).
Close of Play:
Day 1: Indians 266/9 (Patel 52*, Nehra 0*; 90 overs)
Day 2:
Indians 1st innings R M B 4 6
A Chopra c Roach b Harrop 2 14 14 0 0
V Sehwag c Hodge b Inness 23 59 32 5 0
S Ramesh c Harrop b White 87 266 191 10 0
R Dravid c Moss b Inness 0 28 21 0 0
SR Tendulkar c Hussey b Inness 80 124 111 14 0
*SC Ganguly c Arnberger b Inness 2 4 5 0 0
+PA Patel not out 52 135 109 5 0
Harbhajan Singh c Harvey b White 3 17 13 0 0
L Balaji c & b White 4 13 14 1 0
Z Khan c McDonald b White 2 8 9 0 0
A Nehra not out 0 30 25 0 0
Extras (lb 7, nb 4) 11
Total (9 wickets, 90 overs, 353 mins) 266

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
*SC Ganguly c Arnberger b Inness 2

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by V�r�n Kha�n�:

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

It reminded me of an Indian tour in early 1980's after which people started saying "call 23001206 (not sure of the exact number) to contact Mohinder Amarnath" because in that series Amarnth scores were 2,3,0,0,1,2,0,6.
Looks our Prince of Kolkata (Sourav) too is going to get a new number ... (may be a mobile number, which of 10 digit)

[Pradeep bhatt]

Sorry guys.. it is the usual story..nothing new..Indian bowlers get thrashed all over the parks .. hehe

Victoria 1st innings R M B 4 6
MTG Elliott c Chopra b Harbhajan Singh 48 131 100 5 0
JL Arnberger c Dravid b Nehra 8 49 29 1 0
BJ Hodge not out 153 324 228 19 1
J Moss run out (Harbhajan Singh) 42 88 72 6 0
DJ Hussey c Dravid b Nehra 21 36 26 2 1
AB McDonald lbw b Harbhajan Singh 1 4 3 0 0
IJ Harvey not out 54 111 96 8 1
Extras (lb 6, w 1, nb 14) 21
Total (5 wickets, 90 overs, 374 mins) 348
To Bat: MWH Inness, +PJ Roach, *CL White, BD Harrop.
FoW: 1-21 (Arnberger, 9.6 ov), 2-85 (Elliott, 28.5 ov),
3-192 (Moss, 50.5 ov), 4-231 (Hussey, 59.3 ov),
5-232 (McDonald, 60.1 ov).
Bowling O M R W
Khan 16 2 56 0 (2nb)
Nehra 19 3 56 2 (6nb)
Balaji 20 3 84 0 (6nb, 1w)
Harbhajan Singh 27 3 117 2
Sehwag 6 2 19 0
Tendulkar 2 0 10 0

[ November 26, 2003: Message edited by: Pradeep Bhat ]

[Mani Ram]

Originally posted by V�r�n Kha�n�:

It reminded me of an Indian tour in early 1980's after which people started saying "call 23001206 (not sure of the exact number)

Got it. It was 47001000