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Okay, now I have a specific need for money.
A few weeks ago, the server kept crashing and the folks at ejip.net would go in about every day at 4am to re-boot the server. That's when we shut the search stuff down. It helped, but eventually the problem creeped its way back.
About a week ago, the ejip folks popped in two gigs of memory. This seems to have cleared the problem up - so we turned searching back on.
But memory costs money. Two gigs costs $800. I'm thinking that for now, maybe we can get by with just one gig, but I'm not sure.
$800 is way out of my budget. And since I'm currently looking for a job ... well, you get the idea.
So here's your chance. Toss a few bucks into the pile at http://www.javaranch.com/donate.jsp - or maybe look into running some banners at http://www.javaranch.com/rates.jsp
 
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Paul,
Allow my naivete to show through....have you thought about approaching Sun directly? Your site definitely adds value to "their" java product! I have absolutely no contacts at Sun but would be willing to find out more if you would like?
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Our host has suggested this very thing.
Do you have an e-mail address for the person that would be interested in doing this at Sun? Or IBM?
 
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Good idea. Let Sun sponsor your server.
And while you're at it... please upgrade to http://www.vbulletin.com/
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Hi Paul!,,.
I tried to put some money via paypal using my credit card...
Its hell... why its asking me to register under paypal(it already charged me $2) to send money to you.Then its also going to charge 2% and 35cents for any amount that i'm going to send.
In australia if i want to pay my bills,its very easy using BPAY. do you have something like that ?
any way i love this site.i will make the payment once i receive my paypal membership number.
 
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I got a email from paypal!..
at the end it says
"Remember, completing your membership is one of the requirements for
receiving your $5 New Account bonus."
Hee!.. Hee!...I'm happy now
 
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I'm gonna make a little donation, too. I cannot afford too much, but if everybody can afford a little, it's gonna make a "big little"
 
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Originally posted by Paul Wheaton:
Our host has suggested this very thing.
Do you have an e-mail address for the person that would be interested in doing this at Sun? Or IBM?


Why not ask Kyle Brown if he knows s.o. from IBM who might administer budget for sth like javaranch?
[ September 19, 2002: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]
 
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Problem with getting a sponsor like Sun or IBM
is that they may pull the plug if we slam 'em.
E.g. discussion(s) about Sun's recertification policy.
 
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Balaji,

Its hell... why its asking me to register under paypal(it already charged me $2) to send money to you.Then its also going to charge 2% and 35cents for any amount that i'm going to send.


Paypal does not charge $2 to signup, at least not here in US. If you want to become verified they charge your credit card $1.92, you look at your credit card billing statement, find a magic 4 digit code (associated with that charge), punch it back in paypal account, and you are verified. AND YOU GET YOUR $1.92 back. Stops wannabe scammers.
Now, the 2% and 35 cents is the fairest mostest deal out there. Any retailer that accepts credit cards has to pay the bank x% + y cents per transaction. And the HIGH VOLUME retailers get the best deals, and I believe the best numbers are 2% + 35 cents.
If Joe Schmoe can start accepting credit card payments for 2% + 35cents, its a more than FAIR deal.
I have been using paypal for years, buying and selling, and have a lot of respect for their business model. (hopefully ebay doesn't screw at all up with greed)
/hs
 
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Our host has suggested this very thing.
Do you have an e-mail address for the person that would be interested in doing this at Sun? Or IBM?


Paul,
Here's what I've come up with re: Sun.
1. You can contact: 408-276-7100 (or you may be able to get through using the 800#) and ask for Corporate Affairs. This is the dept which handles donations. Not sure what type of donations (if it's cash or h/w-s/w type of stuff).
2. If you go to Sun's site for sponsorships: http://www.sun.com/aboutsun/sponsorships/ This may give you some information about how to apply for a sponsorship.
I would help you out more and actually try to speak to them, but obviously you would know more about what you are looking for, can answer questions re: how long you've been around, etc. I've only just recently got "hooked". Hope this helps you out. Let me know if you want me to get more involved.

Problem with getting a sponsor like Sun or IBM
is that they may pull the plug if we slam 'em.
E.g. discussion(s) about Sun's recertification policy.


Yes, you may have to worry about something like this, not sure of how this would play out; i.e.-how progressive is Sun at allowing free speech?
Janet
 
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On the link you gave, I found this: "** Currently, Sun Microsystems is not accepting new proposals. ** "
Here are my thoughts about Sun:
    Keep in mind that Sun has something of a "competing" site at the java developers connection.
    It does make sense that Sun would want to support us in all sorts of ways, including providing us a box in exchange for us saying "JavaRanch runs on Solaris!" prominently. And cash sponsorship to promote new java stuff. Banners and the like.
    We had that run-in with them last spring about trademarks. I cannot help but think that getting a solaris box from them means that they are going to bring in their lawyers who will "protect the interests of sun". Somehow, a 20 page legal document comes to mind compounded with over a year of negotiation.
    In June I offered them free banner space. All I needed from them was a banner and a URL. It was only a couple of days ago that they finally got a banner to me.

    So here's my position. I'm willing to call them or e-mail them and generally talk to them about these ideas. But I get a really bad feeling in my gut about it. I run this site beause it's fun. And I think that going down this road is the road to less fun and more ulcers.
    Currently, I'm giving certain parties at sun free banner space. I hope that maybe someday later they'll have something they want to promote and they'll repay the kindness by actually paying for a banner or two. I like this approach a lot because no lawyers are involved, it's really easy to do, and it just feels good.
    If I were a better business man, I'm sure I would be on the phone to damn near every extension at sun trying to drum up some business. But I'm just a putz with a website that got really big.
    The donation bucket is currently over a hundred bucks. We have over a week to go. I think we'll be okay.
 
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Paul,
Here are my last tidbits pertaining to your posting.

Keep in mind that Sun has something of a "competing" site at the java developers connection.


As I'm sure you know, it's not nearly as good and seems to be sort of self-monitoring.

We had that run-in with them last spring about trademarks. I cannot help but think that getting a solaris box from them means that they are going to bring in their lawyers who will "protect the interests of sun". Somehow, a 20 page legal document comes to mind compounded with over a year of negotiation.


That was last spring - as it seems with many of the bigger computer corporations, people are constantly shifted around - maybe there would be new people and not as much paperwork / legal junk to deal with.

So here's my position. I'm willing to call them or e-mail them and generally talk to them about these ideas. But I get a really bad feeling in my gut about it. I run this site beause it's fun. And I think that going down this road is the road to less fun and more ulcers.


With an 800# and "free" email it's worth a try again. Just be sure that you STOP WAY before you get to the ulcer stage!!

Currently, I'm giving certain parties at sun free banner space. I hope that maybe someday later they'll have something they want to promote and they'll repay the kindness by actually paying for a banner or two. I like this approach a lot because no lawyers are involved, it's really easy to do, and it just feels good.
If I were a better business man, I'm sure I would be on the phone to damn near every extension at sun trying to drum up some business. But I'm just a putz with a website that got really big.


You're probably not a putz. Isn't it cool how you have such a great site? For what it's worth, IMHO, I wouldn't let Sun run free advertising indefinitely. Tell them that after 60 days (or whatever number), it gets pulled unless they ante up. Maybe you're already doing that.

The donation bucket is currently over a hundred bucks. We have over a week to go. I think we'll be okay.


VERY COOL! That's got to make you feel pretty good. Especially knowing that computer professionals (now don't everyone jump down my case since I'm one of them!) are usually pretty thrifty - I think you get my drift.
Good Luck Paul!
Janet
 
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I'm allowin Sun a limited number of impressions on their banner. After we show it 100,000 times, we yank it.
I e-mailed my contact at sun today ...
 
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Originally posted by Paul Wheaton:
But I'm just a putz with a website that got really big.


I tend to think of you more as just a "goober" with a website that got really big.
(Which is how you described yourself at least once before in my memory. )
 
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Mmmmmm, goober peas. Ya know, if you chew em up thoroughly they taste just like peanut butter.
 
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IBM would be a much better bet !!!
 
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What would it cost me to advertise the H1-B activists site www.zazona.com in the banner?
[ September 23, 2002: Message edited by: Rufus BugleWeed ]
 
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See this page for banner info.
 
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I have made a donation. I just hope you don't mind they were Euros
 
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This is really good news:

YIPPPEEEE Partners!!! We did it! We have enough money to pay the Memory upgrade bill - Thanks to many of you. What a team!


I am proud of myself and all the other payers-for-great-service (think that donators is the wrong word).
 
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Thanks guys. It's pretty seriously cool how many people put up money and how a few put up a serious slice of money!
 
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