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I need some advice on how to be a Hardman. I know that it is all about image: body language and choice of words. I am already started a weight training a couple of weeks ago.
 
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try not to use microsoft product
 
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What is a hard man in your mind, and why do you want to become one?

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I hear Cialis, Levitra, and Viagra do the trick.
 
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Whenever someone saya hard man I'm reminded of that episode of coupling
 
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Originally posted by Max Habibi:
What is a hard man in your mind, and why do you want to become one?

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Hardman are more attracted woman for a start, well that�s the only reason. I have no reason to push around people or anything. It�s nothing to do with respect, not liking myself or not or anything like that.
 
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I *believe* the US term for what you mean is "hardbody."

At a minimum, you need well thought-out, high-protein eating plan, a prescribed balance of anaerobic/aerobic exercise, resistance training, narcissism.

How can you tell if you're a narcissist? Look in a full-length mirror. If you have to go find one, sorry, you ain't.
 
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you have to be rich first, so you spend time, money, effort on it, or you have to be generically close to it


Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
I need some advice on how to be a Hardman. I know that it is all about image: body language and choice of words. I am already started a weight training a couple of weeks ago.

 
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Move up North - I always thought the people in the south regarded us 'Northerns' as rough barbarians.

PS - A few years back, I walked past Sarah Alexander (actor who plays 'Susan', in 'Coupling'), she's a bonnie lass.
 
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something reminds me peter north



Originally posted by Peter Rooke:
Move up North - I always thought the people in the south regarded us 'Northerns' as rough barbarians.

PS - A few years back, I walked past Sarah Alexander (actor who plays 'Susan', in 'Coupling'), she's a bonnie lass.

 
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I've been talking to a senior manager this week, the only problem is that after talking to some of the hardware techies - they just had to tell me that this lady shares the same name as an adult actor - I should have known better!

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" - Sigmund Freud.
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Practice makes perfect but I have no idea of what makes for good practice. They don�t exactly do bouncer diplomas in collage or I would take one straight away.
 
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So your goal is to be good with women?
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
I need some advice on how to be a Hardman. I know that it is all about image: body language and choice of words. I am already started a weight training a couple of weeks ago.



Id suggest:

12 pack of beer and a bad attitude. And a pointed stick.

It might not work, but it will save you time and money as opposed to other methods.
 
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Originally posted by Michael Herrmann:
So your goal is to be good with women?



Yes.
 
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A nice body is no silver bullet, my friend.
 
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Then practice on a daily basis. Go out often and talk to every woman that attracts you everywhere (in the train, the mall). Make picking up women a game. Try things out. Find things they respond positively to. Be confident. You've got nothing to loose. And, for god's sake, don't try to persuade women into liking you by bringing them flowers, paying for dinner etc. -> Don't act needily (it's all supply and demand: if you chase a woman there's supply but no demand, if you act confident and show NO interest in her and make it look like she's the one who's chasing you, you create demand).

And looks are not as important to women as they are to men. How you behave is much more important.
 
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Most of the people that I know, who can really handle themselves, don't try to be 'hardmen'. It's the ones who need to appear as 'hardmen' who can have a bad unfriendly, and sometimes arrogant attitude. And anyway, who said women like this type of attitude!

"Do you know what you are?, You are what you is ..So see what you got, You are what you is, An' that's all it 'tis" - Frank Zappa ('You are what you is').
 
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Originally posted by Peter Rooke:

"Do you know what you are?, You are what you is ..So see what you got, You are what you is, An' that's all it 'tis" - Frank Zappa ('You are what you is').



I am a geek
I know what am,
and I is what I
and if you know what a mean!

I see myself more clearly then an most NT's see themselves, I see the true ugly truth without a bias mind. Indeed, I see thing with the fresh mind of a child I guess that why some say that I am like a child, a very romantic personality , no!

One approach is to give up the logic thinking, but I cannot stand to play lips service and talk of what people want to hear, but I am working at it. I am a Dog among Cats, I know my true Dog but I am still to find my Cat in a Cats world.
 
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Originally posted by Michael Herrmann:

And looks are not as important to women as they are to men. How you behave is much more important.



I know this already, I have done the research much research and if looks only mean 20% for woman but it is something worth improving on and to me its a much simpler thing to improve on, its just a bit more painful as I do 14 sets with 200 kilo weights on perfect form.

Behaver is so much harder improve on then say weight loss, a hard-body, appropriates dress sense, mainly because it is very hard to monitor and less black and white.

You approach is very logical indeed but seeing what woman respond positively however I will do this after I have become a Hardman. It would be a lot easier to give up those elements of being a Hardman that woman do not like opposed to then learning those elements that woman like in a hardman. If I learned to be a Hardman doesn't mean I would change inside, and develop an ignorance and aggression that most Hardman have.
 
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Why not to try to find a woman who will like you for who you are?
 
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Why not to try to find a woman who will like you for who you are?



I wonder why I didn't think of it myself.
 
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I don't think being a hardbody or "good with women" is the answer.

I think it falls back to a couple things.
1. the old cliche of "be yourself" Yeah, it sounds lame, but if you met someone wouldn't you want to know that the person you met will be that person when she lets down her guard and isn't acting? Same goes for you.

2. confidence.
not arrogance, but just be confident. be sure of yourself and others will just sense it.
 
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
I *believe* the US term for what you mean is "hardbody."

At a minimum, you need well thought-out, high-protein eating plan, a prescribed balance of anaerobic/aerobic exercise, resistance training, narcissism.

How can you tell if you're a narcissist? Look in a full-length mirror. If you have to go find one, sorry, you ain't.


I appreciated this.
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:


I know this already, I have done the research much research and if looks only mean 20% for woman but it is something worth improving on and to me its a much simpler thing to improve on, its just a bit more painful as I do 14 sets with 200 kilo weights on perfect form.

Behaver is so much harder improve on then say weight loss, a hard-body, appropriates dress sense, mainly because it is very hard to monitor and less black and white.

You approach is very logical indeed but seeing what woman respond positively however I will do this after I have become a Hardman. It would be a lot easier to give up those elements of being a Hardman that woman do not like opposed to then learning those elements that woman like in a hardman. If I learned to be a Hardman doesn't mean I would change inside, and develop an ignorance and aggression that most Hardman have.



Yikes!
You are approaching relationships like you would approach a programming assignment.

Chicks really dig musicians. Learn how to play guitar. Not just memorization, learn how to express yourself musically an\d artistically. Perhaps write an article on your favorite political cause. Donate some time at the homeless shelter. Theres some substance there.

Any chick who likes a guy because he is a "hardman" is pretty shallow.
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:

...its just a bit more painful as I do 14 sets with 200 kilo weights on perfect form...



200 kilos??? as in 440 pounds... thats like the weight of 3 people... 14 times?!?!? Am I missings something here? Did I convert incorrectly?
 
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Originally posted by Dan Maples:


200 kilos??? as in 440 pounds... thats like the weight of 3 people... 14 times?!?!? Am I missings something here? Did I convert incorrectly?



Nope, you're right. Gerald, if you're already doing that, I think you might have a self-image problem.
 
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There is where I stay true to myself with good logical functional composition, to learning to please a woman by finding what pleases them keep it up might be hard if that particular behavior is not native to me. The chances are it is native to a hardman ,my complete social opposite so it is good to learn how to be one.

It is synonymous with learning the marshal arts.I learned marshal arts bare-knuckle-boxing with an occasional kick, some opponents require more kicks some others would be easier to throw. If I lived in the world of the Judo fighting and learn the science of throwing and grappling and if I was to learn how to kick from the best kicking marshal arts, wouldn�t I be a better marshal artist for the experience.

For the last fifteen years, I have learned what the social norms about relationships.
Most of them are based on false analyst combined with the need to protect the interest of society. We wouldn�t want to encourage rude boys and hardman bad behavior in our society would we?

If I were a hardman wanting to get in touch with sensitive and kind self, It wouldn�t surprise me if no one said to me �just be yourself that is the way woman like you�. The only difference in the situation is I am a geek getting in touch with my bad self.

You would be surprised what can be disproved in the interest of our society , in this scientific era where man has traveled to the moon and not all of them are religious ;some of them however has become a religious norm to make them stronger.We live in a world of lies and only science is the only reliable truth.
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
There is where I stay to myself good logical functional composition, to learning to please a woman by finding what pleases them keep it up might be hard if that particular behavior is not native to me. The chances are it is native to a hardman ,my complete social opposite so it is good to learn how to be one.

It is synonymous with learning the marshal arts.I learned marshal arts bare-knuckle-boxing with an occasional kick, some opponents require more kicks some others would be easier to throw. If I lived in the world of the Judo fighting and learn the science of throwing and grappling and if I was to learn how to kick from the best kicking marshal arts, wouldn�t I be a better marshal artist for the experience.

For the last fifteen years, I have learned what the social norms about relationships.
Most of them are based on false analyst combined with the need to protect the interest of society. We wouldn�t want to encourage rude boys and hardman bad behavior in our society would we?

If I were a hardman wanting to get in touch with sensitive and kind self, It wouldn�t surprise me if no one said to me �just be yourself that is the way woman like you�. The only difference in the situation is I am a geek getting in touch with my bad self.

You would be surprised what can be disproved in the interest of our society , in this scientific era where man has traveled to the moon and not all of them are religious ;some of them however has become a religious norm to make them stronger.We live in a world of lies and only science is the only reliable truth.



Are you on any medication?
 
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I was talking to someone, the other day, who said that she would never want to be anybody else, she just want to be herself.

But everybody has that element needed to conform to society or social group this lady in particular smokes and drink and buys expensive cloths, she says she does them because it is who she is but I know she does them to fit in. What else is the benefit of doing those things that consume lots of money and at the cost of health. It looks like the worse thing I can do is to do the same but admit it that I am doing it to fit in. From now on I will just try to lie to myself as I try gulp down a disgusting tasting beer at the pub instead of drinking a girly cocktail which I prefer when I am with my friends.
This is a much more sane thing to do.
 
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Originally posted by Gerald Davis:
From now on I will just try to lie to myself as I try gulp down a disgusting tasting beer at the pub instead of drinking a girly cocktail which I prefer when I am with my friends.
This is a much more sane thing to do.



I would say that its better to do the complete opposite. Just do what you feel like - if you put on an act in order to make friends or get a girlfriend, then you'll have to maintain that act forever, and no-one can do that.

Its better to just be yourself. Anyone that doesn't like you for who you really are is probably not a good person to have as a friend (and certainly not a girlfriend) anyway. If there's one thing that most people appreciate more than anything its honesty, be it honesty to others or honesty to one's self.
 
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Many people do not realise what is good for them; they live a lie, a fa�ade that keeps them in order so that they implement the rule of mother nature herself; beauty, youthfulness, survival experience, ability to provide for their offspring (with money) or badness with a touch of evil to acquire goods by any means possible; she wouldn't mind at all so long as he is good to her and her offspring. We are all a statistic LOVE IS NOT BLIND. Maybe it is but you first have to be loved first then if she sees through your fa�ade the chances are love will do its magic.

If a married man lost his leg in an accident, the chances are that his wife would stay with him( at least a town that promote good family value) for richer or poorer in sickness or in health.

If the man however was still on the shelf with a broken lag, unless he has some outstanding attractive quality( the qualities that I don't have) the chances are he will live and die alone. HAVING ASPERGER IS LIKE HAVING A BROKEN LAG.

Like having a social fa�ade is much like lying on a job resume or CV it will get you in there and if you do an excellent job they will keep you even if they find out you have been telling a few porkies.
 
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