The inability to "pass judgement" [and to] know what is good or bad is the loss of personal values and human morality.
Judge not lest ye be judged.
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Godwin strikes again.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
"Judge not lest ye be judged" applies to people not to situations. The idea is that we shouldn't judge a person as being bad or good because we don't know what is in their heart or what has led them to be the way they are. But we can judge their actions and punish them for those actions.
Nope... wrong incident. The story of the adultres woman is in John 8. In that case Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." But it is important to note what the passage tells us: John 8:6 "They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him." In this case he didn't say that punishing her actions was a bad thing. He found his way out of the trap by turning their own sins against them.Originally posted by Max Habibi:
I'm a little confused. Didn't the anonymous author of the quote use it to stop a group of judgmental types from punishing someone for her actions?
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Originally posted by Jeff Fisher:
I think a better translation would be "CONDEMN not, lest ye be CONDEMNED."
As thinking people, we make judgements all the time. And we can probably see flaws in others that we would like to avoid in ourselves. Conversely, we should also be able to find characteristics in others that we would like to emulate.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
So then are you saying that you would reject the premise made by the quote in the first post?
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I came across this quote today which I found interesting. I'm not going to source it since I think it would only distract from the conversation.
As kids growing up, our parents often warned us not to "pass judgement" on things. Thinking about it now, I'm not sure if that's really the best advice. Isn't it a desired trait for moral beings to be able to interpret situations and apply a set of values to shape that interpretation, thus passing judgement? When we say "don't pass judgement", aren't we really saying that we should not apply morals and values in our interpretations?
Yeah, I'm rambling. That quote does resonate somehow though.
[ July 27, 2005: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]
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Originally posted by Stan James:
anything that turns a profit is "really quite good"
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Originally posted by Stan James:
I wasn't thinking of corporations so much as folks like Howard Stern or Larry Flynt. There's a place for pushing the boundaries of what's "good" and in this country they have a right to see how far they can go. Sometimes society tries to push back via the courts. Sometimes these guys win and claim to be vindicated - "See, what I was doing not just legal but GOOD!" Howard can move to XM and out from under the thumb of the FCC, leaving him nothing but his own choices for good & bad.
What's my point? I'm no prude. I enjoy dirty jokes and various sins in privacy now & then. But I'm saddened that the general tone of media and entertainment is so darned sleazy and in my kid's face.
Originally posted by Stan James:
I wasn't thinking of corporations so much as folks like Howard Stern or Larry Flynt. There's a place for pushing the boundaries of what's "good"
What's my point? I'm no prude. I enjoy dirty jokes and various sins in privacy now & then. But I'm saddened that the general tone of media and entertainment is so darned sleazy and in my kid's face.
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