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Ashes Cricket Series Discussion Thread

 
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I have been following ashes tests. Second test is on a cliffhanger. So what's your prediction regarding the outcome of the series? 2-1 to Australia?

I think Aussies will be made to scramble for every bit and piece to lay their hands on the ashes trophy.

Note: Ashes is a 5-test CRICKET series played between poms(Englishmen) and aussies. This note is for avid baseball fans
[ August 06, 2005: Message edited by: Ramesh Choudhary ]
 
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Been trying to balance watching and sleeping. 5-0 Australia
'Balanced', I'm guessing this was posted before England were 181/9
 
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Drats! Flintoff goes! I am a supporter of English team. Aussie domination is not good for the game. I would love to see aussies humbled
 
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He's strained his shoulder too. If it effects his bowling Australia will romp it home and have an extra day's holiday. Even without McGrath.
 
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Hi David Australia just two wickets away from defeat. Cheers
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Oh well, I was close. :roll:
 
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What a match! Classic!
 
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Yep! At last ENgland Wins.No cricket fan should miss this all time great match
 
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That was an astounding ending. I've always said I'd rather see a good game of cricket than watch Australia belt someone around the paddock, and this was a good game!
 
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Yes, That was an all time great match. If Aussies lose ashes(which is very unlikely) Ponting deserves to get all the blame. With out McGrath, the attack looked flat. Only thing that saved the aussie attack was the morbid fear towards Warne in English Batsmen. His bowling is more Intimidation(by releasing those 90 degree legbreaks) and nothing else(as our guys have destroyed him in 1998 and 2001).He escaped another thrashing in 2003(India in Australia). He was marginally effective in 2004(Australia in India).


I wonder seeing such a less no of posts in this thread.All Indians are cricket followers, and there are many Indians on this board. I think they must have missed the match(that's very unfortunate for them) or they haven't noticed this thread.
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What a fantastic match - I couldn't watch at the end I thought we (England) were finished for sure.

I thought it was going to be a massive embarassment.

Flintoff is owning his matches at the moment - it is a shame that England has to rely on one player so much but he is going to be one of the greats I think.

There is a bit of controversy as the last wicket wasn;t technically out but I think it balances with an earlier decision.
 
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Originally posted by David O'Meara:
That was an astounding ending. I've always said I'd rather see a good game of cricket than watch Australia belt someone around the paddock, and this was a good game!



Spoken like a true cricket lover & sportsman

It sure was a fantasic game. I followed the last 5-6 overs via Cricinfo and I was sitting on the edge of my seat.
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As Dean Jones said, England dodged the bullet and were really lucky to escape with a 2 runs victory. Good for Ashes, otherwise the defeat would have deflated England and we would have to go thru another Aussie hammering of England. Its going to be close this time.

Lets see how it goes at Old Trafford, that pitch is expected to be a turner. Maybe time for Stuart McGill ;-)
 
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Once McGrath returns normal service is expected to resume. I watched the last day of the match. I had my heart in my mouth for the last half hour. Flintoff and Harmison bowled fast and australian tail enders helped those balls around the corner for some lucky runs.

Whole english nation would have deflated hadn't they won. I still thin that england made heavy whether of the last day.


There is a bit of controversy as the last wicket wasn;t technically out but I think it balances with an earlier decision.



Yes. We must ban the human empires.They make all sorts of mistakes Bring in the technology. There are too many luddites in cricket. . Billy bowden turned down a lbw decision on simon jones during england's second innings. That was costly i guess.
 
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Originally posted by Ramesh Choudhary:
I still thin that england made heavy whether of the last day.



I stayed up and watched the English 2nd innings on Saturday and went from being convinced that they would lose (once Flintoff seemed to screw his shoulder up) to thinking they could probably win with Australia needing to break Edgaston record books to win..

When I got up on Sunday morning and discovered that Australia needed 107 more runs with just 2 wickets remaining I was sure the game was dead and buried and would be finished in less than 30 minutes...

Yesterday as the "runs required to win" kept creeping down, you could see the England team flagging and spirits dropping... It seemed to me like England were without hope and were going to go 2-0 down effectively killing the series dead and therefore ending any hope for the game of cricket (If *this* England team cant beat Australia then theres no point in bothering to watch ANY cricket is there? Its almost as silly as international Rugby League its so one sided!)..

But.. my fingernails got shorter and I kept watching and just in the nick of time the final wicket fell... What took them so long?? Were they deliberately playing for maximum drama?

A fantastic emotional roller-coaster of a game! (I even managed to have a crowd Filipinos watching the last 45 minutes on the edge of their seats once I explained what was going on!)...

Still... now England have pulled their pants up and narrowly avoided the white-wash, they'll no doubt all go back to sleep and lose the next 3 tests!
 
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[RC] If Aussies lose ashes(which is very unlikely) Ponting deserves to get all the blame.
I can't say I agree with this. Ponting leads the team but isn't the whole team. I don't like roasting captains based on team performance, pick on the selectors if you must.

[RC] Only thing that saved the aussie attack was the morbid fear towards Warne in English Batsmen. His bowling is more Intimidation(by releasing those 90 degree legbreaks) and nothing else
Again I disagree. Firstly, turning the ball at those angles should be enough, but Warne is also an extremely intelligent bowler on the field (and complete numb-skull off it). His variation is the danger.

[RB] Flintoff is owning his matches at the moment
Absolutely, full points to him. I was hoping his shoulder strain would imact his bowling, but it wasn't to be

[PN] Its going to be close this time.
And this is possibly the best outcome. England have some hope, Australia won't have lost all hope. Two teams playing in great form and competing directly head-to-head. The next game promises to be exciting.

[RC] We must ban the human empires.
No, I think we need them. While it is true they have an effect on the game they also allow the game to flow. The technology is also flawed and as good as it is, Hawkeye isn't accurate enough to pick many LBW decisions. The shots they show hitting or missing the stumps are equal parts technology and guesswork - there isn't always enough time for it to pick the true trajectory.
 
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Great innings for Vaughan - then out to a stupid shot

I thought England were on for 600 but finishing 5 down today was bad news. I think England will be lucky to get 400/450...
 
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No, England will get to 550. The wickets lost were of Hoggard and Pietersen.
If they get their act right another 150 runs would be a breeze.

Ponting underbowled warne before lunch. Gillespie is in a horrrible form
 
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[Ramesh]: We must ban the human empires.

But if we do that, we humans will just be ripe for conquest by the first alien empire that comes along.
 
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Prediction:

Flintoff makes 60, Bell makes it to 100 - England get to 500 after lunch day2..
Australia come in and bat their way to 450 by close of day3..
England 2nd innings collapse and Australia squeeze a win late in day4/early day5 :-(
 
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After a long time it's great to hi-quality pace bowling, and England has two of them in Harmison and Flintoff (since the days of Willis and Botham). Flintoff appeared larger than life in the 2nd test - 2 1/2 centuries, 7 wickets and two catches. He was matched by Warne who got 10 wickets and scored 42 in the 2nd innings till he got out in comical fashion (just shows how liquid pace can intimidate...)

After the exit of Walsh, Bishop, and Ambrose, Allan Donald, Wasim and Waqar - are we seeing two fast bowlers of the highest quality who can initmidate the best team. The reason Australia scored many easy victories in the past 6 years was because of lack of quality opposition bowling. Flintoff's over in which he got rid of Langer and Ponting was unforgettable. Just as Australians target the oppostion captain, here was the Australian captain being targetted by England.

After 8 series, the Ashes is no longer one-sided - it's being fought hard now - and none can predict who's going to win...but one thing's for sure - some the finest cricket is being played in this series
 
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434-8 at lunch - dissapointing morning.
 
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As I suspected Englands tail didnt last long against Warne - all gone for 444. With Australia on that pitch I think England have a tough day ahead.
 
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Australia: 170/5
If England can pickup the remaining wickets fast, they have a match in their hands. But Australia's tail is as thick & as long as a Kangaroo!
 
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Australia:210/7. I am rooting for England. Quite tired of the Aussie domination.
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