KGB,Cold War ,India

[Arjunkumar Shastry]

KGB,Cold War,India
KGB infiltrated almost entire country in 70s with backing of the then Indian govt,officers.
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Despite her own frugal lifestyle, suitcases full of banknotes were said to be routinely taken to the Prime Minister�s house to finance her wing of the Congress Party. One of her opponents claimed that Mrs Gandhi did not even return the suitcases...
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[Pradeep bhatt]

Even today Indian politicians are selling the country.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Why is NDTV quite on this issue?

[Arjunkumar Shastry]

If this issue is not supressed,everybody will be in trouble.

[Chetan Parekh]

If this issue is not supressed, everybody will be in trouble.

They had suppressed entire country during the emergency period.


[ September 19, 2005: Message edited by: Chetan Parekh ]

[Ramesh Choudhary]

Why is NDTV quite on this issue?

NDTV looks like out of the mill BJP bashing media house. But I have seen their coverage on this issue. They were pretty much objective and fair on this issue.

When will a CIA version of the above book come out?. I am sure they must have manipulated many congress politicians with greater efficiency.

[Pradeep bhatt]

NDTV looks like out of the mill BJP bashing media house. But I have seen their coverage on this issue. They were pretty much objective and fair on this issue.

I don't have a TV but are they conducting a special dicussions or have they decided to treat it as a one time reporting item ? :roll:

There is nothing that 'honest' and 'patriotic' citizens of India can do if politicans want to sell India.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Media is involved in this so you won't find any more reports.

Politicians, film stars , media and cricketers are all corrupt.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Mrs Gandhi did not even return the suitcases...

The suitcases must have been of good quality. I had purchashed a suitcase recently but the handle broke in few days.

[John Smith]

The most amusing part of the story to me is that Khrushchev presented Gandhi with a mink coat which became one of the favourite items in her wardrobe. Mink coat in India?

It takes a long time to undo the damage: the last I've heard, the communists are still running wild in the Indian government.

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by John Smith:
Mink coat in India?

Delhi is cold enough in winters for mink coat.

[R K Singh]

Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:
Media is involved in this so you won't find any more reports.

It is not the only case of India.

Not long back I was talking to my friends about mass brain-wash and role of media(print/audio/video/movies etc). How they mould the collective thinking.

I was about to mention the movie name "Purab Aur Paschim" in this thread. But I did not because that was the view of India in 70s when all westerns were bad.
And still people around and above 30 are of that mindset. They grew up listening bad about US and western culture. For them it become kind of hard to digest that now India media is printing some good news about US/west. Obviously media can not change in a day.

I have noticed that now news about russia is getting less and less space in news papers & channels and US is getting more and more space. US bashing is becoming less and less and obviously praising like USSR would take some more time.

So current trend in media is neutral US news with a pinch of bashing. I think in another 2-3 yrs, if US-India ties goes well then there would be less US bashing (and soon no bashing) and neutral US news would start parising US. [and who knows after 20 yrs, you come to know that media was getting money for praising.]

Actually all countries do brain washing.
Media mould the public opinion everywhere because nation reads/hear what is told by media/Govt. They wont listen good news if media does not want you to listen it.

We see what is shown to us.

[Arjunkumar Shastry]

What surprised me was not a single newspaper is ready to do investigation in this issue as they might made their hands dirty during that time.Indian media pretend to be free but in reality it is not free.Had KGB helped Pakistan,we would have seen age old journalists on NDTV/Doordarshan for a week.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Arjunkumar Shastry:
What surprised me was not a single newspaper is ready to do investigation in this issue as they might made their hands dirty during that time.Indian media pretend to be free but in reality it is not free.Had KGB helped Pakistan,we would have seen age old journalists on NDTV/Doordarshan for a week.

What is Telekha news paper doing ? It must not even have printed the news. Recently it did a U-Turn regarding Rahul Ghandhi's interview.

Deccan Herald published this news in its front page y'day & today there is news in some 12 page.

[Pradeep bhatt]

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[Frank Silbermann]

What's really odd to me is the way people persuaded by communism pushed for radical change. It seems common sense to me that before embarking on nation-wide radical change that a country would have tested it first via a few pilot projects and prototypes on a small subregion.

The way most communists went about it was like trying a major code refactoring of a huge running system with no separate test or development environment, and no unit tests.

[Dave Lenton]

Originally posted by Frank Silbermann:
What's really odd to me is the way people persuaded by communism pushed for radical change. It seems common sense to me that before embarking on nation-wide radical change that a country would have tested it first via a few pilot projects and prototypes on a small subregion.

Especially as its something which would probably work better in a small region then in a larger one.

Actually there was something which could be considered a (semi-communist) sub region experiment: the Paris Commune of 1871. The experiment didn't exactly go to plan though. They actually did some good things like install a democratically elected government, added regulation to protect night workers, ended the death penalty, lowered rent, separated church and state, introduced free education and increased pensions. Unfortunately they made a couple of mistakes - firstly they left all their enemies banks alone instead of taking their gold (morally a good decisions, but tactically poor) and secondly they spent so long talking about social reforms that they didn't sort out a proper defence and got squashed like bugs by the French army.

The way most communists went about it was like trying a major code refactoring of a huge running system with no separate test or development environment, and no unit tests.

Not only that, but they read the design patterns text book and then ignored it by implementing the central control pattern instead of the distributed control pattern. The text book also suggested implementing the system in only one class file, but for some reason they decided to make two instead. Then, in the spirit of programmers everywhere, they refused to admit that they were ignoring the text book and hoped that people wouldn't notice the bugs.
[ September 21, 2005: Message edited by: Dave Lenton ]

[Pradeep bhatt]

Looks like no one is interested in this thread just like the Indian media.