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Gregg Bolinger wrote:PHP can be just as scalable (with the right amount of hardware) as Java and Java (with the right toolkit/framework) is just as suitable for smaller web applications and tighter budgets.
Fred Hamilton wrote:hmm, so is BS that as a general rule scripting languages offer lower development costs. Well, then there's a lot of misinformation, and misguided people out there that need to be called for BS.
Raj Shharma wrote:
Fred Hamilton wrote:hmm, so is BS that as a general rule scripting languages offer lower development costs. Well, then there's a lot of misinformation, and misguided people out there that need to be called for BS.
Even I thought that using Scripting Language one would have lower development cost but I was not sure how it would stack up with Java/Java EE Technologies.
Fred Hamilton wrote:hmm, so is BS that as a general rule scripting languages offer lower development costs. Well, then there's a lot of misinformation, and misguided people out there that need to be called for BS.
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:PHP can be just as scalable (with the right amount of hardware) as Java and Java (with the right toolkit/framework) is just as suitable for smaller web applications and tighter budgets.
I agree but if one have to do project implementation like CMS system, say Online forums like Javaranch or develop an auction site like ebay than on what parameter would one decide to go for PHP or Java.
Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Fred Hamilton wrote:hmm, so is BS that as a general rule scripting languages offer lower development costs. Well, then there's a lot of misinformation, and misguided people out there that need to be called for BS.
I'm talking about Java as a platform more than a language. So groovy, scala, jruby, Java, whatever with regards to development costs.
Fred Hamilton wrote:
Raj Shharma wrote:
Fred Hamilton wrote:hmm, so is BS that as a general rule scripting languages offer lower development costs. Well, then there's a lot of misinformation, and misguided people out there that need to be called for BS.
Even I thought that using Scripting Language one would have lower development cost but I was not sure how it would stack up with Java/Java EE Technologies.
I'm gonna back off from my statements as I was relying more on information from others rather than lots of my own experience with cost benefit analysis.
Raj Shharma wrote:
Fred Hamilton wrote:
Raj Shharma wrote:
Fred Hamilton wrote:hmm, so is BS that as a general rule scripting languages offer lower development costs. Well, then there's a lot of misinformation, and misguided people out there that need to be called for BS.
Even I thought that using Scripting Language one would have lower development cost but I was not sure how it would stack up with Java/Java EE Technologies.
I'm gonna back off from my statements as I was relying more on information from others rather than lots of my own experience with cost benefit analysis.
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Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:PHP can be just as scalable (with the right amount of hardware) as Java and Java (with the right toolkit/framework) is just as suitable for smaller web applications and tighter budgets.
I agree but if one have to do project implementation like CMS system, say Online forums like Javaranch or develop an auction site like ebay than on what parameter would one decide to go for PHP or Java.
If I was doing a CMS I'd find an existing CMS and go with it. Same with forums. There's too many existing solutions for those types of things to roll one from scratch. As far as something like ebay, personally, I'd go with Java (as a platform). I think Java (as a platform) scales more naturally than PHP and is more suited to highly transactional systems, as something like ebay would need.
Fred Hamilton wrote:
seems clear enough. My remarks were based not on personal experience with development costs, rather they were based on information I've gathered when trying to make my own decisions about what to focus on. Thus I can't really argue from my own knowledge of the situation. In which case when someone with apparent much more experience says otherwise, I back off and reconsider. That's all. I don't mean to offend, though the BS part irked me just a touch.
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:PHP can be just as scalable (with the right amount of hardware) as Java and Java (with the right toolkit/framework) is just as suitable for smaller web applications and tighter budgets.
I agree but if one have to do project implementation like CMS system, say Online forums like Javaranch or develop an auction site like ebay than on what parameter would one decide to go for PHP or Java.
If I was doing a CMS I'd find an existing CMS and go with it. Same with forums. There's too many existing solutions for those types of things to roll one from scratch. As far as something like ebay, personally, I'd go with Java (as a platform). I think Java (as a platform) scales more naturally than PHP and is more suited to highly transactional systems, as something like ebay would need.
Thank you very much...It really makes sense not to re-invent wheel and look for already existing solutions...
Scenario: I want to develop yahoo like portal for internet providers wherein I would get some sort of content from different content providers and would have some sort of feeds similar to yahoo...
For above scenario which one would be preferrable: PHP v/s Java
I might be repeating myself but do provide your inputs as it would really help to get better understanding. From discussion so far I guess PHP would be better options for this but not sure on it.
Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:PHP can be just as scalable (with the right amount of hardware) as Java and Java (with the right toolkit/framework) is just as suitable for smaller web applications and tighter budgets.
I agree but if one have to do project implementation like CMS system, say Online forums like Javaranch or develop an auction site like ebay than on what parameter would one decide to go for PHP or Java.
If I was doing a CMS I'd find an existing CMS and go with it. Same with forums. There's too many existing solutions for those types of things to roll one from scratch. As far as something like ebay, personally, I'd go with Java (as a platform). I think Java (as a platform) scales more naturally than PHP and is more suited to highly transactional systems, as something like ebay would need.
Thank you very much...It really makes sense not to re-invent wheel and look for already existing solutions...
Scenario: I want to develop yahoo like portal for internet providers wherein I would get some sort of content from different content providers and would have some sort of feeds similar to yahoo...
For above scenario which one would be preferrable: PHP v/s Java
I might be repeating myself but do provide your inputs as it would really help to get better understanding. From discussion so far I guess PHP would be better options for this but not sure on it.
It's literally impossible to make a decision based on the information given. There's soooo much that goes into making these decisions and it's not even always about what is the best tech but might come down to speed to market and what the team knows already.
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Raj Shharma wrote:
Gregg Bolinger wrote:PHP can be just as scalable (with the right amount of hardware) as Java and Java (with the right toolkit/framework) is just as suitable for smaller web applications and tighter budgets.
I agree but if one have to do project implementation like CMS system, say Online forums like Javaranch or develop an auction site like ebay than on what parameter would one decide to go for PHP or Java.
If I was doing a CMS I'd find an existing CMS and go with it. Same with forums. There's too many existing solutions for those types of things to roll one from scratch. As far as something like ebay, personally, I'd go with Java (as a platform). I think Java (as a platform) scales more naturally than PHP and is more suited to highly transactional systems, as something like ebay would need.
Thank you very much...It really makes sense not to re-invent wheel and look for already existing solutions...
Scenario: I want to develop yahoo like portal for internet providers wherein I would get some sort of content from different content providers and would have some sort of feeds similar to yahoo...
For above scenario which one would be preferrable: PHP v/s Java
I might be repeating myself but do provide your inputs as it would really help to get better understanding. From discussion so far I guess PHP would be better options for this but not sure on it.
It's literally impossible to make a decision based on the information given. There's soooo much that goes into making these decisions and it's not even always about what is the best tech but might come down to speed to market and what the team knows already.
On this parameter's
1.speed to market
2.what the team knows already
which tech would be best results: Java/PHP provided teams are on same level of understanding for both the technologies or let's say needs to be trained in both the technologies.
Gregg Bolinger wrote:
Ugh! I don't know. Toss a coin and hope for the best? This isn't a question that can be answered on JavaRanch. You should discuss this with your team, your manager, and/or your investors. None of which are here on JavaRanch.
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