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what is difference in access jstl and jsf tags!

 
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Hi

we use ${} to get any variable in jstl tags but in jsf we use #{}

what is specific difference in using this ???
 
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Moved to the JSF forum.
 
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One's for JSF, one's for JSP. The UEL is supposed to remove the disparity, but since I don't know anything about JSF (that I admit to), I can't really speak to that.
 
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In my opinion, moving the EL information out of the JSP Specification, and into its own mixed up with the JSF stuff was a big mistake. It's completely confusing for anyone not interested in the JSF aspects of the EL.
 
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Oh, and to clarify: this has nothing to do with the JSTL, or with tags. The EL is not the JSTL, and EL expressions are not tags.

 
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Acutally, what they did was get rid of the idosyncratic per-framework expression languages and merge them all into a Unified Expression Language (UEL). Makes the rules more consistent and voids the need for separate parsing, interpreting and support facilities.

The primary difference between the "$" and "#" indicators is that "#" indicates a reference and "$" indicates a value. Specifically, since "#" is a reference, it can be used in situations where an lvalue expression is required.

The JSTL/jsp tags retrieved only values, so they use ""$". However, JSF often updates the references, as for example in the "inputText" controls.

I think in JSF pre-historic times, the use of one or the other might have been briefly mandatory. These days, the "#" notation works for most everything JSF. JSP items, on the other hand, aren't prepared to receive input on their EL properties, so they continue to use the (read-only) "$" notation.
 
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Right, Tim. I understand why they did it -- I just think it was done in a ham-handed way that makes it confusing for people who just want to know how to use the EL in JSP.
 
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