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On editors and integrated developer environments

 
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I have been entirely ignorant of what an IDE actually is, and last night during an insomnia attack I started reading old posts here, and saw that people seem to have the darndest problems with their IDEs...

... create project (click, type), import (click, browse), set CLASSPATH (click, browse)

And I am now very curious! Do any of you bother with all this for the first assignments, or do you just use an editor?

Of course, my ignorance pretty much gives me away: I use an editor.

What are the advantages of using an IDE?
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For the assignments I assume most people are using a text editor. We actually encourage that pretty strongly, since, like you read, it's easy to get tangled up in an IDE and lose energy learning to use the IDE as opposed to learning how java works.

I used a text editor all the way through the Drive. From what I've heard, the advantages of using an IDE kick in with bigger projects (my java stuff has all been small, so an IDE never seemed worth the bother).
 
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I use a text editor, in particular TextPad, which I think is a brilliant editor
 
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I also used a couple of text editors (not at the same time) all the way through the drive, UltraEdit and TextPad. Paul used the professional version of Visual Sleek Edit for years at work as well as to create the assignments. I still use TextPad for coding simple things.

We do encourage students to use editors rather than IDE's to start because
1) There is a learning curve associated with the IDE which could distract from learning Java
2) Sometimes you can get the IDE to do stuff for you and you don't really understand how the IDE is doing it (or exactly what it is doing)
3) We want to avoid questions like "How do I do ... in (insert IDE of choice here)"
 
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When using Windows I used ultraedit, now I use Ubuntu, I use Kate - both as good as each other - except one cost me $30 and the other cost me nothing!!

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Originally posted by Marilyn de Queiroz:
We do encourage students to use editors rather than IDE's to start because
1) There is a learning curve associated with the IDE which could distract from learning Java
2) Sometimes you can get the IDE to do stuff for you and you don't really understand how the IDE is doing it (or exactly what it is doing)
3) We want to avoid questions like "How do I do ... in (insert IDE of choice here)"



That makes a lot of sense.

I have tried several text editors: Bluefish, Emacs, Vi/Vim (and Vigor!!!), Nano/Pico, and in Windows: Crimson Editor.

So far I have been happiest with vim.
 
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