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1Z0-858 compared to 1Z0-899

 
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I've been studying for the older version using HSFJ and Enthuware. But now I think it would be better to take the 899 test. Is there a site or faq that compares the two? Which material was added to 899 and what was dropped? I'm hoping stuff like classic tags was dropped from the new test.

[edit] I should mention that I'm reading the servlet 3.0 specs and I've ordered the study guide by Charles Lyon. It should be here today in fact. I'll also order the Enthuware package. I've never used Whizlabs but I may get that too if it's recommended.
 
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I read the two books for my exam 1Z0-899.
The two books cover the exams.
But most of the exam is based on the Java EE5, basics functionality of the Servlets and JSP Technology.
On the new additions to the Java EE6, which you find in the book OCEJWCD Study Companiom, Chapters 8, 10,11,12.

My finally advice.
Read one of the books twice, and practice a lot with examples.
 
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Most important change in 858 and 899 is the addition of annotations. In the 899 exam, the questions use annotation quite a lot. Even if the question itself may not test on annotation.
Then you have dynamic servlet registration and asynchronous request processing.
Some new Listeners.


One topic that causes a lot of pain to the exam takers is merging of multiple web.xmls and annotations and deciding which contributor takes precedence.

On the plus side, developing custom tags is out.

If you have prepared for 858, you will need substantial time to get ready for 899.
 
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Thanks to both of you. I've been through HFSJ three times and just received the Lyons book. Good news on the custom tags. I was going crazy trying to memorize all the interfaces and return values. I was hoping to take the test by November as one of my annual performance goals, but I'm beginning to doubt that it's a realistic goal. I may have to talk to my boss about pushing that out to next year.
 
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I am, actually, in similar situation. I have just passed OCPJP7 and would like to do a certification in the Java EE. I have worked in SE but not in EE. So, I was wondering if anybody could help me decide between
1Z0-858: Java EE 5 Web Component Developer Certified Professional VS 1Z0-899: Java EE 6 Web Component Developer Certified Expert.

1Z0-858: Java EE 5 web component developer certified professional
1Z0-899: Java EE 6 Web component Developer Certified Expert

1) Apart from the obvious difference, which is version 5 vs version 6, looking at the contents, people who are from EE background, could someone please differentiate the two as I am not from EE area?

2) Oracle says "The Oracle Certified Expert certification program grants credentials that recognize competency in specific technologies, architectures or domains not currently covered in the path-based Oracle Certifications." Given that both the certificates pertain to the same area of WCD, there must be a reason why Oracle decided to add another certificate called OCE rather than just upgrading OCP option to version 6. Maybe the contents/aim are different?

Thanks
 
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I am wondering the same thing.
 
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Good question, can any one could answer the question
 
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