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Here is an interesting article about how the Enigma and Lorenz codes were cracked during WWII.
 
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It's interesting to hear it from the point of view of the workers. History is usually tales of famous heroes. Which ignores... a whole lot The easiest good cypher I ever heard of is using an unknown language. E.g. Navajo code talkers.
 
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I'm not sure the code talkers count as a cypher.
 
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Code talkers would not count as a cypher.
 
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No. A code is understood by those who know the code; apparently in the troubles in Bosnia 20 years ago, the British forces used Welsh speakers to communicate secret messages, since the chance of anybody there understanding Welsh were minimal.
A cypher is something not understood by whoever knows the cypher (until the message is deciphered).
 
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Say you knew the cypher so well that you could decipher the message instantly as you heard the message. Is it no longer a cyphered message?
 
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You mean like a Caesar cypher?

Even a Caesar cypher has to be deciphered, even though it is a very simple procedure.
 
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The Enigma story is fascinating. There's quite a lot of read on Wikipedia about the deciphering efforts. What I find most astonishing about the "breaking Enigma" story is that one unfortunate decision (unfortunate to Wehrmacht, that is) - to type the message key twice - has given such a great advantage to people trying to decipher it.
 
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I saw this movie called the imitation game tonight, about this topic, probably why these interest items on this subject have been dropped. I think today was DVD release. Not a good movie really. Turned facts into clichés easy to grasp with one eye open. It's all there. I think most people interested in the subject matter would rather see a good documentary, Bad idea for a movie but it does get Turing's name out there, which is good. One of the movie makers said you don;t fact check a Monet and Monet isn't realistic. Ok, yeah but by the same token Monet is far from cliché!
 
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I adore Monet.
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:I adore Monet.


He's fabulous!
 
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I found this great video on the history of Bletcchley Park, It gets into the details of Enigma and Lorenz. Well worth a view.
 
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