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1Z0-813 Java 8 Upgrade exam advice needed

 
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Hey,

Having taken the SCJP exam many years ago for Java SE5. I'm keen on upgrading to Java 8 with the 1Z0-813. I have purchased the Sybex OCP book which covers this exam. But what I'm not sure is should I concentrate only on the criteria that it mentions for this exam? Or should I be approaching this exam like I need to revise the whole lot like I was not going an "upgrade" exam?

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Also for me a very interesting question.  2011 I passed OCPJP Java 6 and now all java developers in my company have to pass OCA and OCP certification for Java 8.  For OCA I choose the new certification.  But for OCP I'm not sure which way I should  choose.
 
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Norbert Reding wrote:Also for me a very interesting question.  2011 I passed OCPJP Java 6 and now all java developers in my company have to pass OCA and OCP certification for Java 8.  For OCA I choose the new certification.  But for OCP I'm not sure which way I should  choose.



If the company objectives are to get everyone to OCP level, then many would require doing OCA I assume. But doing OCA isn't required for you then as you have passed OCPJP.
 
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Ericson James wrote:

Norbert Reding wrote:Also for me a very interesting question.  2011 I passed OCPJP Java 6 and now all java developers in my company have to pass OCA and OCP certification for Java 8.  For OCA I choose the new certification.  But for OCP I'm not sure which way I should  choose.



If the company objectives are to get everyone to OCP level, then many would require doing OCA I assume. But doing OCA isn't required for you then as you have passed OCPJP.



Yes I know, but it's the rule of my company: any java developer has to pass OCA, OCP and Java EE 6 Enterprise JavaBeans Developer Certified Expert 1Z0-895.
 
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Norbert Reding wrote:Yes I know, but it's the rule of my company: any java developer has to pass OCA, OCP and Java EE 6 Enterprise JavaBeans Developer Certified Expert 1Z0-895.



Ah ok. I guess then for you it's probably best to take the approach of starting from scratch, just to make sure you cover everything you need for both exams. For me though it will be different I think.
 
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Ericson James wrote: For me though it will be different I think.


Yes. So I have advice for both of you.

Norbert: Talking the OCA first is good. It's an easier exam so gets you ready and used to taking the exam again. It also lets you show an earlier pass to your employer to show you are on the right track. That gets you certified at the associate level in Java 8. To be certified at the professional level, you have to take OCP 8 or the upgrade exam. The upgrade exam is a lot harder than the OCP 8. There are two reasons for this:
  • A good number of the easier topics on the OCP 8 aren't on the upgrade exam
  • Oracle has some OCP 7 topics on the upgrade exam. These were taken off the OCP 8 but on the upgrade exam. So there is more to study for.

  • As you can see, I recommend you take the OCP 8 after you pass the OCA.

    Ericson: You should study the whole book and not just the appendix. Because even if they aren't explicitly testing a concept that isn't on the upgrade, it is fair game for them to use in practice. You should of course spend more time on the upgrade topics. That said, you probably already know a traditional try block requires a catch or finally so will get through that material faster.
     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Norbert: Talking the OCA first is good. It's an easier exam so gets you ready and used to taking the exam again. It also lets you show an earlier pass to your employer to show you are on the right track. That gets you certified at the associate level in Java 8. To be certified at the professional level, you have to take OCP 8 or the upgrade exam. The upgrade exam is a lot harder than the OCP 8. There are two reasons for this:

  • A good number of the easier topics on the OCP 8 aren't on the upgrade exam
  • Oracle has some OCP 7 topics on the upgrade exam. These were taken off the OCP 8 but on the upgrade exam. So there is more to study for.

  • As you can see, I recommend you take the OCP 8 after you pass the OCA.

    Ericson: You should study the whole book and not just the appendix. Because even if they aren't explicitly testing a concept that isn't on the upgrade, it is fair game for them to use in practice. You should of course spend more time on the upgrade topics. That said, you probably already know a traditional try block requires a catch or finally so will get through that material faster.



    Thanks for this reply Jeanne. What I needed. So would it make more sense for me to do OCP8, and not the upgrade exam? Or will this mean I'll have to do the OCA exam prior as well?
     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:The upgrade exam is a lot harder than the OCP 8. There are two reasons for this:

  • A good number of the easier topics on the OCP 8 aren't on the upgrade exam
  • Oracle has some OCP 7 topics on the upgrade exam. These were taken off the OCP 8 but on the upgrade exam. So there is more to study for.

  • As you can see, I recommend you take the OCP 8 after you pass the OCA.



    Thank you Jeanne, exactly the information I was looking for!
     
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    Ericson James wrote:Thanks for this reply Jeanne. What I needed. So would it make more sense for me to do OCP8, and not the upgrade exam? Or will this mean I'll have to do the OCA exam prior as well?


    It's trickier for you. While it is easier to take the OCA 8 and OCP 8, this takes longer and costs more money. So it is up to you if it is worth it. And that depends on your odds of passing the Java 8 upgrade exam vs coming close but not quite there. And also your time/cost pressure in passing. For Norbert, it was easy because he has to take the OCA exam anyway.

    How did you do on the assessment at the beginning of the OCP 8 book? (you can PM me if you don't want to post that)
     
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    OCPJP 8 Upgrade exam with code 1Z0-813 is for those who are planning to upgrade from Java 6 and prior versions. If you have Java 7 certification, then you have to prepare for the 1Z0-810 exam.
    You can access the complete details of objectives for the exam in Oracle's Website : http://bit.ly/2kPsWZO

    For your preparation Java SE 8 OCP certification check out uCertify: http://www.ucertify.com/certifications/Oracle/oracle-oca-java.html
     
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