Mano Ag wrote:
To me even pair programming is sometimes stretching things a bit...
Junilu Lacar wrote:Did they do a lot of explaining on what was happening in the demonstration?
Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:I found my turn maddening. Being told "go to this method", "type x on this line", etc feels silly. I'm used to pairing where the person typing has more autonomy and the other is focused on higher order concepts. I did ask after and he said it isn't usually like that.
Piet Souris wrote:Problem was that we all had our own ideas, and it was hard to listen to the ideas of others (as Junilu rightly remarks: all busy with the implementation). You did listen, of course, but at the same time you were thinking 'yeah, yeah, but when I come home, I will follow my own ideas...',
You do the same with theses. Sit in front of a mirror and read the chapter out loud. Best done when there is nobody else around.
Junilu Lacar wrote:. . . lots of talking out loud to myself . . .
I have never had that problem; my family all know I lost it ages ago.
so as not to make my family think I was losing it . . .
Mano Ag wrote:To me even pair programming is sometimes stretching things a bit...
Junilu Lacar wrote:I know quite a few reasons why people feel that way. I'm curious, what are yours? What gets "stretched"?
Mano Ag wrote:I think the names themselves have a strong connotation of "implementation" or even "coding" alone. From my experience, people tend to see development as just "implementation" or just "coding". If I had my way I would call these "Pair Development" or "Mob Development". The reason is that such terms can then encompass the idea of what Junilu has called "fruitful conversation" and what Jeanne has called "higher order concepts".
In my opinion if "Ingredient X" is lacking it doesn't matter how many typyists you have, as noone knows what is the correct thing to type.
Junilu Lacar wrote:Your reasoning doesn't quite add up to me and actually seems self-contradictory
Junilu Lacar wrote:Mobbing isn't for everyone.
Junilu Lacar wrote:In those moments when you weren't engaged, can you remember why you wandered off into doing something unrelated? Were you bored or did you just need to do this other thing that couldn't wait until later? Or was it for some other reason?
Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:A mix of causes
We were in a room for three days straight which is a long time to pay attention My teammate would go to checkout a password or something that I know takes a minute I'd go to check email "real quick" and then get lost in something else I went to lookup something relevant and got distracted I knew I was off the day after this three day engagement and that other teammates needed information from me