JavaFX Discontinued from java 11+

[Daniel Demesmaecker]

JavaFx was announced as the successor for Swing and java.awt, so why did oracle decide to take it out of the jdk, while leaving swing and awt in it?
In 2022 Oracle will no longer support javaFx and by then everyone should have made the switch to the new JavaFX openmodule which will be available as separate download, supposedly to give the developer more freedom over the framework and to get the open source community more involved, while I do think javaFx has it's limitations and some things could be improved, I always liked working with javaFx and wondering what about my already developed applications, will they still work onder the new javaFx open module and why the need to discontinue, there where already modules you could add to increase the javaFx functionality, like controlsfx for example...

[Campbell Ritchie]

Well Swing replaced AWT a long time ago, but I am not convinced that Swing and FX have been supported properly. A few years ago, FX was touted as the successor to Swing, but it seems to have fallen by the wayside a little. It might well be better for FX to be supported by a thrid party vendor, who will take an interest in it.

[Knute Snortum]

My experience with converting JavaFX 10 to 11, even with the small programs I converted, is that it is a non-trivial process.  I made the decision to use Maven to control the execution and dependencies.  

Still, there are some really good things that have already come out of the switch.  The big one for me was that FXML files can now actually be in packages of their own.  Pre-11 they had to be in the same package as the controller.

You can see what I've done with my bindings demo here.  The master branch is JavaFX 11 and pre-javafx-11 is... well... pre JavaFX 11.

[Daniel Demesmaecker]

Knute Snortum wrote:
Still, there are some really good things that have already come out of the switch.  The big one for me was that FXML files can now actually be in packages of their own.  Pre-11 they had to be in the same package as the controller.

No, they didn't... I always use JavaFx together with Spring Boot and never had any problem keeping everything separate. My fxml I keep in resources/fxml while my controllers were in the subfolders of my java folder...

[Tim Holloway]

Campbell Ritchie wrote:Well Swing replaced AWT a long time ago, but I am not convinced that Swing and FX have been supported properly.

This is rather sad. The SWT GUI toolkit was developed independently of Oracle, presumably because Swing (or maybe AWT) didn't satisfy many people. It has been used in a number of major products, including the Eclipse IDE and the Pentaho product suite instead of Swing (JavaFX didn't come until later).

I realize that desktop apps are relatively unpopular nowadays, but not everything works well using JavaScript in a browser (shudder). It would be nice for there to be some love for GUIs from the Java core.

[Daniel Demesmaecker]

Omg now that I, cause of Tim's response, read my own post again I'm horrorfied by the spellingmistakes, I was on my phone and didn't notice the autocorrections, I can't edit it myself anymore, so Somebody of staff pleace adjust my post

[Paul Clapham]

Daniel Demesmaecker wrote:I'm horrorfied by the spellingmistakes...

That should be "horrified"...        

[Daniel Demesmaecker]

Lol Paul ... my excuses, I'm not native nor did I ever took English in school, so i have the tendency to write as I speak

[Bryan Moser]

Javafx is supported and has a vibrant community releasing updates every 6 months.  Oracle is one part of the community.  We build applications that don't make sense in a browser and appreciate the UX we can craft with JavaFX.  Noting that javafx as a module is a simple setup configuration,  that's all.  Please check out javafx.io openjfx.io for recent details.

[Campbell Ritchie]

BM: Welcome to the Ranch