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At the moment I have VisualAge 3.02, running on a shared repository, with Clearcase 4.2. To test the application I use the VisualAge inbuilt environment.
Everybody else here is doing the same, but I'd like to know what other options are available. Prior to this job I worked with iPlanet and used a local installation of iPlanet (App+Web server), building and deploying with ant.
I'd like to install WebSphere locally, and hopefully bypass using VisualAge altogether - is anyone doing this or should I just get on with VisualAge?
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If the rest of your team is using VisualAge, you should too. It's a nightmare to have some team members using it and some not...
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its currently taking 5 minutes to start up the websphere test env, surely it would be quicker to deploy to websphere with ant..?
 
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Probably not much quicker, no. It might be a bit faster, but you're probably still talking about 2-3 minutes or more.
Also, you know that you can keep the WTE running even as you make most changes...
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You're best bet is to ditch VA altogether and move to WebSphere Studio Application Developer.
It is seriously the best deveopment environment in the world. Inside of WSAD is a real WAS 4.0 server to deploy to. Also, it has built in XML editing, JSP development, HTML development, and a Clear case plugin. No longer do you have to worry about bringing up and down the WebSphere Test environment in VA. The integration with Clear case is seamless, and it actually COMES with a single version of clear case.
Version 4.03 of WSAD is out now, and I have found it a little buggier than VA, but the upside is really, really good for WSAD. It is the mother of all development environments.
 
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Hi,
You can't beat Textpad and Ant if you ask me - though I am planning on trying WSAD in the near future.
How would WSAD work with the following setup:
I work on different projects for different clients and therefore require both WAS3.5 and WAS4.0 to be set up somewhere to deploy and test on. Could I have WAS3.5 installed with WSAD running alongside? My understanding is that WSAD installs WAS4.0 AEs on your system.
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I do like the ability to make code changes on the fly, but for lots of stuff I need to bounce the server.
..also .jsp compilation...
I used to be able to step thru jsp code but the execution monitor broke and I now have to delete the old .java/.class files and let VisualAge rebuild them which takes absolutely ages.
All that besides, someone is using WSSAD here (I've installed it but not used it yet), and I've got too much work to do :-/ to start playing around with my environment.
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