Pakistan v/s Australia

[Pradeep bhatt]

I recd an email today

6 runs to be added to Sachin's 194
By Savita Choudhary
MULTAN, March 31, 2004
As strange as this may sound, ICC has decided to award Tendulkar 6 additional runs for his first innings knock of 194 not out. This comes after the Indian team appealed to the ICC match referee Ranjan Madagulle that a four and a couple of runs that were awarded as leg byes actually came off the bat of Sachin Tendulkar. The match referee after consultation with the two umpires Simon Taufel of Australia and David Shepard of England, and the Pakistani captain Inzamam Ul Haq, has decided to award Tendulkar with 6 runs.The 6 runs came in one over when Tendulkar glanced Shabbir Ahmed in the 96th over of Indian innings for a four of the second ball. He followed it up with a couple of runs on the fifth ball. These runs were awarded leg byes by umpire David Shepard. Accordingly, ICC has decided to change Shabbir Ahmed's bowling figures as well.Press 'ctrl+a' to see authenticity of this mail from ICC........
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[jyothi godavarthy]

Oh! this is an april fool joke, wish it was true.......

[Varun Khanna]

well to see in detail that what Sachin has lost by missing out 200:
Number of Career runs --> 6 (not much)
Number of centuries --> Same 33
Nmber of Double Centuries --> 1
(and the end of his career it will only be 1 less)
But the most important thing I guess is the record of back to back double centuries in 2 test match. (Feat which a very few batsman has achieved)
But he already has so many records that this one won't make much of a difference.
So njoy !!!

[jyothi godavarthy]

May be he will repeat it in the next two matches

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by jyothi godavarthy:
May be he will repeat it in the next two matches

But then he will miss the distinction of only batsman doing it twice

Dravid should have allowed him He should have :roll:

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

But then he will miss the distinction of only batsman doing it twice

Dravid should have allowed him He should have :roll:

The news is Ganguly asked Dravid to declare.

[jyothi godavarthy]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

The news is Ganguly asked Dravid to declare.

Where did u hear this news, is it true.......

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by jyothi godavarthy:

Where did u hear this news, is it true.......

Not sure 100%..My friend said this.. cant trust him always. I guess you can trust him in this case.
Sanjay manjrekar said that Dravid decision was a great one and Dravid had Gangulys support.

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by jyothi godavarthy:

Where did u hear this news, is it true.......

Don't rely on Pradeep's news today.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

Don't rely on Pradeep's news today.

Dont trust Varun also. hehe

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

Not sure 100%..My friend said this.. cant trust him always. I guess you can trust him in this case.
Sanjay manjrekar said that Dravid decision was a great one and Dravid had Gangulys support.

You listening/trusting Sanjay Manjrekar?
I don't trust anybody apart from Navjot Singh Sidhu. He is The Best and always Happy

[Pradeep bhatt]

Read Kapil Dev's column in TOI
Would the declaration have come if Ganguly was batting on 196?

:roll:

[Ranga Sreenivasan]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Read Kapil Dev's column in TOI
Would the declaration have come if Ganguly was batting on 196? :roll:

Yuck! a bunch of whiners (including Tendulkar)
didn't expect such a public display of disappointment from him though
He really shouldn't care about personal records at this point in his career...
:roll:

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Ranga Sreenivasan:
didn't expect such a public display of disappointment from him though

Do you tihnk he displayed his disappointment publicly? I am surprised.
Infact I appreciated the way he handled the situation.

He really shouldn't care about personal records at this point in his career...

So Sachin plays for personal records?
You reminded me of a dialogue sequence from a movie Spiderman:
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The Green Goblin:
You and I are not so different.
Spider Man:
I am not like you, you are a murderer.
The Green Goblin:
Well, to each his own. I choose my path, you choose the way of the hero and they found you amusing for a while, the people of this city. But the one thing they love more than a hero is to see a hero fail, fall, die trying. In spite of everything you have done for them eventually they will hate you.
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[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Ranga Sreenivasan:

Yuck! a bunch of whiners (including Tendulkar)
didn't expect such a public display of disappointment from him though
He really shouldn't care about personal records at this point in his career...
:roll:

It is a matter of shame that he was not allowed to score 6 runs. More over it was 1st innings. May be Dravid did not want Tendulkar to equal his 4 200s.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Dravid was wrong to declare: Ganguly

[jyothi godavarthy]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Read Kapil Dev's column in TOI
Would the declaration have come if Ganguly was batting on 196?

:roll:

Kapil also said
Would the declaration have come if Sachin was batting on 296?

[jyothi godavarthy]

Originally posted by jyothi godavarthy:

Meanwhile Ganguly arrived in Kolkata for treatment of his lower back injury. "I am looking forward to return for the third Test match. I hope to be fit within the next few days and join the squad," he said.

The series would have been won by then, sourav would just need to come and collect the cup.........

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by jyothi godavarthy:

The series would have been won by then, sourav would just need to come and collect the cup.........

You never know :roll:

[Shalu Ban]

Originally posted by Ranga Sreenivasan:

Yuck! a bunch of whiners (including Tendulkar)
didn't expect such a public display of disappointment from him though
He really shouldn't care about personal records at this point in his career...
:roll:

Exactly what i feel He should not have given a statement that he was *surprised* at the decision. People would not have talked like this if we had taken a few wickets in the 16 overs. Sachin was informed twice before it was declared but he was batting tooooooooo slowly and wasting time. And then he says that he was *surprised* ! Great players like Kapil should think twice before writing such articles which just would cause discomfort.
Good to see that our team is looking above individual records and only keeping team interest in mind. Great Job Indian Team!

[Pradeep bhatt]

Sachin was informed twice before it was declared but he was batting tooooooooo slowly and wasting time.

Dravid batted *very* slowly in most of his career days. I can give many instances where he had scored 2-3 runs batting for 50 balls.

[Mani Ram]

Originally posted by Shal Ban:

but he was batting tooooooooo slowly and wasting time.

Hmmm...strange you feel it that way. Let's look at the break-ups
50 Runs in 112 Balls
100 Runs in 209 Balls
150 Runs in 295 Balls
194 Runs in 348 Balls
Which means
112 balls for first 50 (SR: 44.64)
97 balls for next 50 (SR: 51.54)
86 balls for next 50 (SR: 58.13)
53 balls for next 44 (SR: 83.01)
A strike rate of 83+ is an excellent scoring rate. Probably it looked a bit low when compared aganist Yuvi's batting at that time.

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Shal Ban:
he was batting tooooooooo slowly and wasting time.

Oh yeah ?!!
You must be watching too much of one-day cricket.

[Mani Ram]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

Oh yeah ?!!
You must be watching too much of one-day cricket.

A strike rate of 83+ is a good rate even on one-day standards.
Probably Shalu is watching too much of double-wicket cricket or the super-sixes tournaments

[Shalu Ban]

Yeah as u guys point out it was not *toooooo slow* for a test match. But at that time, it was necessary for him to near his century a bit faster as the team wanted to declare and had informed him about that.

[jyothi godavarthy]

Originally posted by Shal Ban:

Yeah as u guys point out it was not *toooooo slow* for a test match. But at that time, it was necessary for him to near his century a bit faster as the team wanted to declare and had informed him about that.

Ya shal ban is right, this comes under too slow, when u already have 675 runs piled up and not just a 100 or 200 runs

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Shal Ban:
Yeah as u guys point out it was not *toooooo slow* for a test match. But at that time, it was necessary for him to near his century a bit faster as the team wanted to declare and had informed him about that.

Thats a valid point ... everyone can agree with this and wonder why this point didn't came into Sachin's mind ... No point in having a basman in the side who :
- Never won matches for team (*like Viv richards/Steve Waugh)
- Never stayed in the crease till the last run was scored or for full 50 overs
- and now, batting slow for personnal records.
I guess he should be dropped from the team for the next two matches !!!
[ April 02, 2004: Message edited by: Varun Khanna ]

[jyothi godavarthy]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

I guess he should be dropped from the team for the next two matches !!!
[ April 02, 2004: Message edited by: Varun Khanna ]

Dropping Sachin after he scored 194, and doing an all round show so that india could grab a historic win, can anyone imagine this...... Thank God Varun isn't one of the selectors, else he would have been beaten black and blue by every cricket fan he meets for dropping sachin

[Mani Ram]

Originally posted by Shal Ban:

Sachin was informed twice before it was declared

I saw that match, and only once a message was passed to the batsmen, not twice. Probably, he was informed about the declaration for the first time in the tea break. But I don't think the captain would have said anything so conclusive at the tea break. At best he would have told that, "expect for the declartion to come in another 10-15 overs".
And regarding the message which was passed to the ground, here is a snippet from Cricinfo (Ball-by-Ball Commentary)
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End of over 161 (7 runs) India 673/4
Shoaib Akhtar 32-4-119-0 - Main Pavilion End
Yuvraj Singh 57* (61b 8x4) SR Tendulkar 194* (348b 21x4)
Powar comes in with drinks and message from the captain
161.1 Imran Farhat to Yuvraj Singh, no run
161.2 Imran Farhat to Yuvraj Singh, no run, played straight to the short
third man fielder
161.3 Imran Farhat to Yuvraj Singh, two runs, tossed up outside the off
stump, Yuvraj sweeps and gets a top edge down to the deep fine leg
region
161.4 Imran Farhat to Yuvraj Singh, no run, driven straight to the cover
fielder
161.5 Imran Farhat to Yuvraj Singh, OUT: gone! tossed up outside the off
stump, driven back to the bowler, easy catch, soft dismissal,
Imran Farhat strikes
India 675/5, Partnership of 110
Yuvraj Singh c & b Imran Farhat 59 (66b 8x4 0x6)
SR Tendulkar 194* (348b 21x4) Imran Farhat 6.5-0-31-1
surprise! surprise! Dravid declares the innings and the players
walk back
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It very well shows, how many balls Sachin faced between the message on declaration and the actual declaration

[Shalu Ban]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

I guess he should be dropped from the team for the next two matches !!!

The team success should never be dependent on a single person. i too admire Sachin for his talent. i just dont like the way the declaration is being hyped thats all. Its a historic win it should not be damped by a trivial issue. The Indian team is playing well. Hope they continue the same way!

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

I guess he should be dropped from the team for the next two matches !!!
[ April 02, 2004: Message edited by: Varun Khanna ]

Yes let us do that. I feel Sachin also needs some rest.

[jyothi godavarthy]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:

Yes let us do that. I feel Sachin also needs some rest.

Then you don't say he is dropped, you say he is rested.

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by Shal Ban:
i just dont like the way the declaration is being hyped thats all.

Hyped by the media to run their business, thats it.
(poor Sachin who just said "He took declaration by surprise" !!!)
Had he opened his mouth properly or if had used "harsh words" ...
career of the so called "Walls" would have been scrood (by media atleast).
Anyways, lets continue with the victory celebration. No point in ruining over the stuff which can't be change.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by jyothi godavarthy:

Then you don't say he is dropped, you say he is rested.

..so that he gets some good sleep.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Is India ready for green top pitches?

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

Thats a valid point ... everyone can agree with this and wonder why this point didn't came into Sachin's mind ... No point in having a basman in the side who :
- Never won matches for team (*like Viv richards/Steve Waugh)
- Never stayed in the crease till the last run was scored or for full 50 overs
- and now, batting slow for personnal records.
I guess he should be dropped from the team for the next two matches !!!
[ April 02, 2004: Message edited by: Varun Khanna ]

He also did not pay tax on his car.

[jyothi godavarthy]

Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:


He also did not pay tax on his car.

Ya afterall sachin is not god, he too will have some +ve and -ve points.

[Varun Khanna]

Originally posted by jyothi godavarthy:

Ya afterall sachin is not god, he too will have some +ve and -ve points.

Not is clear from your posting(s) whether you are a Sachin fan or not

[jyothi godavarthy]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:

Not is clear from your posting(s) whether you are a Sachin fan or not

Is that important?

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by jyothi godavarthy:

Is that important?

Very important actually.