486 certification

[sona gold]

when i appear for 486 certification from IBM, do i get the certificate from sun and oracle automatically
as this is the second exam for oracle JDeveloper
would appreciate if someone could help
sandhya
scjp

[wasi_wasi]

sorry i don't know
Thanx

[Desai Sandeep]

Hi Sandhya,
Test 486 is one of the requirements of Jcert Certification.It falls in Level 2 Category of Jcert track.You don't get a seperate certificate for passing this test.
If you have passed 3 tests, viz. SCJP2,OOAD with UML(Test 486) and Level 2 "Vendor" specific test (For Oracle it is JDeveloper and for IBM it is VisualAge for Java OR Websphere Application Server), you get a "Vendor" Certified Solution Developer certificate.
You earn a certificate for a particular Level by passing the tests at that level AND the tests at the previous level(s).Since at Level 1, you have just one test - SCJP2, you would get a Sun Java Programmer Certificate for this Level.However, to attain Level 2 certificate ("Vendor" Certified Solution Developer) you need to pass the test at previous level (Level 1- SCJP2) apart from passing the tests at Level 2.
You may consider taking the tests in any order you like.You may clear all the tests of Level 3 and then come back to Level 2 or Level 1.However, you will not get the Level 3 Certificate ("Vendor" Certified Enterprise Developer) unless you clear all the tests (3 nos.) of previous Levels (Level 1 and Level 2).
Hope this helps,
Sandeep
Sun Certified Programmer for Java 2 Platform Scored 93%
Oracle Certified Solution Developer - JDeveloper
-- Oracle JDeveloper Rel. 3.0 - Develop Database Applications with Java Scored 56 out of 59
-- Object-Oriented Analysis and Design with UML Scored 73%
Oracle Certified Enterprise Developer - Oracle Internet Platform
-- Enterprise Connectivity with J2EE Scored 72%
-- Enterprise Development on the Oracle Internet Platform Scored 44 out of 56
[This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited July 12, 2001).]

[David Roberts]

Desai,
I haven't been around for awhile but I see you've passed the test. Excellent, you're the first OCED I've talked to.
I'm curious, have any opportunities followed your Enterprise certification?
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David Roberts - SCJP2,MCP

[Desai Sandeep]

David,
I wish I could have earned this title 6 months back.The situation in the US is not very promising as of now.
However, based on earlier qualification/experience on Mainframes and the present Java knowledge, I am getting some opportunities in S-E Asia and Europe (infact as many as 6 potential opportunities) for web-enabling Mainframe applications.
I have worked on a credit card application package - VisionPLUS developed by Paysys Inc., US.This application is written in COBOL and has more than 8 million lines of structured code!.As Paysys has sold this application in more than 50 countries to an impressive list of customers, I can see web-enabling business coming of age very soon.
However, the problem is you don't find developers who have combination of Mainframes (plus domain expertise) and Java Enterprise Technologies.That's the reason this business is taking some time to catch up.
I have been focussing on getting a break on such a project; so far haven't had much luck.I see this changing, if any of those 6 offers clicks
-- Sandeep
P.S.: Would like to add that whenever I went for an interview, the employers were pretty impressed by the Certification title I have earned.However, they keep telling me that they would certainly have very good openings for me once the market picks up!
The bottom line is we have to have some patience and look at the prospects in the coming year.This year is great to learn as much as you can.My gut feeling is anyone making the most of this time, would really benefit whenever the market picks up.
-- Sandeep
[This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited July 14, 2001).]

[Qudsia Jaffery]

I agree with your analysis completely. I am here in the US. I have been an independent consultant for the last 12 years. I have an MS in CS from a very reputable school. I have a wide range of experience in data bases and procedural programing. I have been a project leader for most of the projects that I have undertake. Now I am feeling the pinch of the tight market, and for the first time in my career I am having to struggle to find a contract. I am taking this oppertunity to shift gears and get some certifications. When you are on projects it is hard to learn in this manner.
From that prospective this slowdown in the market is actually a great oppertunity.
Qudsia

[Guy Reynolds]

Geez, you guys really aren't making me feel very good. I'm just about to start the last semester of my BS in CS and just about to take Exam 310-025 and people with MS's and OCED certs are talking about how tight the market is....
ugggg!

[Desai Sandeep]

Hi Guy Reynolds,
Would also like to add that job market depends on the country you are in.
I am based in India at the moment.Maybe things would have been different for me if I was in Europe or in the US (with the OCED certificate..who knows?).
So don't be dissappointed.Just keep trying.You will get a break sooner or later!
Good luck,
Sandeep
[This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited July 17, 2001).]