jcert Initiative

[vasu maj]

What is Jcert Initiative?

[John Dale]

http://www.jcert.org

[Desai Sandeep]

So Vasu, which vendor track are you following?
-- Sandeep
SCJP2, OCSD(Oracle JDeveloper), OCED(Oracle Internet Platform)

[vasu maj]

Sandeep,
Sandeep,
I am not sure. Thats why the question.
Looking at the site, my first instinct was to go the IBM way(I heard someone saying IBM is where java's future is). But then I am new to programming field, looking for my first job. I am open to be corrected. I can see you are into the oracle track. What is your experience?
Also, what is the best way to prepare for the 486 test? My background is again, I dont have a real software experience. (I have some idea how things are done in real projects. Thats about it. But when I started reading GOF book, it was not completely Greek. I can say I was at home). Are UML distilled and Applying patterns ( and GOF which I have already started) enough?

Thanks much,
vasu

[Desai Sandeep]

Vasu,
I have completed the Oracle Jcert track and am now preparing for the IBM Jcert track.I am on track to take the IBM VisualAge for Java test, very soon!
I have about 3.5 years of experience in IT and have worked mostly on Mainframes.I still have to work on a live Java project.However, with these certifications I have gained enough confidence to work on actual projects.Infact, I have executed many small Java assignments on an independent basis for my earlier firm.Had received a positive feedback from them.
From your post, I believe you would like to appear for Test 486 (Vendor Independent Jcert test) first.You would find lots of information in this forum for this test.All the pre-assessment questions have been discussed here.For this test the 2 recommended books are enough!
I had suggested in one of threads of JavaRanch forum, that IBM is the way to go for the Jcert track.It is because its products (Mainframes,AS/400,AIX,etc.) have already been established in the industry and for most of the expected migration projects to web, you would get better support from IBM than any other vendor.
Having said that, I wouldn't discount others.Other Jcert vendors are also doing well from software development point of view; i.e building applications right from scratch.For example, Oracle Business Components for Java (BC4J) is an extremely good solution to develop business solutions.It is a Java-XML solution, which I see as having every chance of scoring more points than EJB solution.However, when it comes to integration of existing business systems, IBM stands out in the Enterprise market!
Hope this helps,
Sandeep
SCJP2, OCSD(Oracle JDeveloper), OCED(Oracle Internet Platform)

[vasu maj]

It did Sandeep, thanks.

vasu

[vasu maj]

BTW, all the very best for your visualage for java exam.

[vasu maj]

Sandeep,
How many certifications did you do in total? Oracle jcert is SCJP + 486 + what? And What is this oracle internet platform?
Are you planning for level 3 certification?

vasu

[Deepak Arora]

Hello ,
I am currently preparing for IBM 483 J2EE Cert.(For level 3 of JCert initiative) can any one tell me (I am sure that sandeep knows abt it) any simmilar forum exists for J2EE 486 certification, whether studying O'really EJB & Web development with JSP is enough for taking & passing the test what additinal readings are recommended. Level of toughness of the test & experience from those who have taken &/or passed the test.
Sandeep best of luck for ur visual Age for Jave exam this is my next goal (as you have advised) after taking J2EE 483.
Deepak Arora

OOAD with UML Test (79%)
IBM Certified XML Developer(68%)
Sun Certified Java Programmer(85%)

[Desai Sandeep]

Vasu,
I have passed Level 3 of Jcert.I took the Oracle Jcert track.This is the breakup of tests I have taken:
<pre>
Level 1 : Sun Certified Programmer for Java 2 Platform(93%)
Level 2 : Oracle Certified Solution Developer - JDeveloper
-- Oracle JDeveloper Rel. 3.0 - Develop Database Applications with Java(56 out of 59)
-- Object-Oriented Analysis and Design with UML(73%)
Level 3 : Oracle Certified Enterprise Developer - Oracle Internet Platform
-- Enterprise Connectivity with J2EE(72%)
-- Enterprise Development on the Oracle Internet Platform(44 out of 56)
</pre>
Thanks,
Sandeep
[This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited July 31, 2001).]

[Desai Sandeep]

Deepak,
I still have to find a forum exclusively for Test 483.I had prepared by reading all the specifications and books from O'Reilly for the various EE technologies covered.
I would not say this is enough to score high in the test.As you can see I just managed 72% (65% is the passing percentage!).This test is more to do with the situations you usually encounter when you develop enterprise application.If you have been in such situations before you would find this test fairly simple.This test calls for people with some experience in J2EE technologies.The same applies for the another test at this Level.
I had done lot of analysis on the questions that were asked in the test.My reasoning had actually helped me to understand Java EE Technologies better.This is what you can look forward to gain by preparing for this test.
Good luck,
Sandeep
PS : Will keep you guys informed on my progress with VisualAge for Java Test.
Thanks,
Sandeep
[This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited July 31, 2001).]