Roger Chiang

Again! This is also the Qs: Who can justify SCJP2 appropriately?
(Please see Java certification result with same topic as above.)
Sometimes, OK! just sometimes, when I think why we need to take the test? (TEST1,TEST2, TEST3,..) Basically the answer is quite clear than the real test. But, OK! just but, when I, or most of us, try to choose several books to read (for what? of course, for higher grade or at least for passing, right?!), I found it's wild that the Qs in the book from sun's web site (or, another one, like JQ+...) looks like twin with the real test. It means that buy this book (or, SW) it guarantee you'll pass the test, or even get a higher score. And they allow themselves make this kind of money, but do not allow us to circulate the Qs from our ancentors...!? (They do not allow us to make use of Information Technology to be IT programmer. Is it ridiculus?!) Does that mean..., OK! just does that mean, if through commercial behaviour, we can circulate our ancestors' harvest. If this is the CASE, HI! MY DEAR ANCESTORS!!!, Pleeeese SEND YOUR SWEET Qs TO ME, I'LL COllECT IT FOR YOU AND MAKE PROFIT AND LET'S SHARE!!!
Here, I want to ASK: Who can justify SCJP2 appropriately?

Hi!
Congratulation! It's a high score, not easy to achieve. Thank you for you tell us you use "khalid mughal's book" in general and "jqplus" in particular. The secret is that the real test and these two sources look like twin. Am I right?

Roger

Can anybody throw an essay -- "How Java is more SUPERIOR THAN Microsoft?" to Microsoft or public press?

To Expected Employer:
Purpose: searching for a position related to Java Development.
Target: Java Developer, GUI Designer, Software Design and
Analysis, or Object-oriented Design and Analysis.
Status: Legal to work in USA without sponsorship.
Qualification:
1. Sun Certified Programmer for Java 2 Platform,
2. M.S. in Computer Science, and
3. Half year Contract Programmer.
Salary
Requirement: Negotiable
Relocation: No problem
Contact E-mail: chiangjj@yahoo.com
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Sun Certified Java Programmer 2

Hi! Ken:
You have mentioned that only three months can train a street met person to pass SCJP test. Great idea! In my opinion, if just want to pass the test, even less than one month is possible for a beginner, (if under my training and cooperation!) The secrete and strategy are always out there.
However, one SCJP has to put much effort to find the job is obviously true. Some of them are lucky and get one quick. Some of us take months and months. The factors might be discussed in above posting.
Since the recruiting market being segmented by many companies and the complex situation being so hard to handle, even so convenient in the Internet would exhaust our searching and following. We've got to react fast, fast, and fast...... and we have to prepare well before we move fast.
However, if we don't depend on these service, what better way we can depend on...? May well there has an Ideal Empire can waive out these kinds of burden and still make us feel comfortable in the job pool?...
( ....I have a dream!.......but never comes true....)

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Sun Certified Java Programmer 2
[This message has been edited by Roger Chiang (edited March 15, 2001).]

Hi!
Your Qs and suggestion has been spreaded in previous forum posting. You just need go back to review no more than 20 posting would help you get some benefits. It's glad to hear that you have a good book, I even didn't use any book and I can pass, you definitely can too. I never evaluated my score for each test, but you did, so you work harder than me. Why worry??
You just need "Pay attention" when in the test..., and some "good luck" to you.
GOOD LUCK! GOOD LUCK! GOOD LUCK! GOOD LUCK! GOOD LUCK!
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Sun Certified Java Programmer 2

Hi! Naga :
I think we have the same style of the test. Your Qs very similiar to mine. You've stated so clear, and our result nearly the same. Hum... this is tricky....
I had finished my Java class year's ago before I took the test.
Normally, I just read some notes (imcompletely) from the web, and printed/studied around 15 exams only. Even did not run program more than five times (each time just run some Qs.) The worst thing was I had no time to review the Qs or read notes once again. However, pass is pass. Ho-Hei!!!
Regards,
Roger
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Sun Certified Java Programmer 2

Hi!
Then read it again and again until it becomes juicy, you'll know everything.

Best Regards,
Roger

Hi!
Please take some times to look around this site for other topic.
Why hurry? Take your time, enjoy something.
Regards,
Roger

Hi! Dear Rosie:
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It is hard (for most people anyway), but not tricky.
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So you meant:
>>> SCJP{
XXXX tricky = ... ;
Hard hard != tricky;
}
is your conclusion, right?
What do you think hard is?
There are two kinds of hard Qs, I believed. One is the Qs we have a ambiguous impression or never touched; another one is the Qs we have ever touched but being twisted and the test misleads us to believe the wrong statement which being transformed. It's personal problem for previous one. However, I don't believe that that is not the trick can make the Qs hard for the second one.
Therefore, if your conclusion is wrong, then this:
>>> SCJP{
XXXX tricky = ...;
Hard hard = tricky;
}
should be RIGHT! even
" Hard hard = (Hard) tricky; " is unnecessary. What do you think "XXXX" is?

I would like to hear more voice from anyone...
[This message has been edited by Roger Chiang (edited March 14, 2001).]
[This message has been edited by Roger Chiang (edited March 15, 2001).]

Ho! Dear Jane:
I'm very appreciated that, at least, you very understood that everybody is work very hard. Why do they work hard is still much clear than real SCJP test. However, you didn't catch my point. Even though we cram different sources (pretty close to each other), we do really preparing to be a good Java Programmer, though not to be a good bartender or nanny. However, I believe, SCJP test made changed and made a "little" twist to play much more tricks than ever. It's not what we want. It wastes our time to prepare "not to be trapped". Otherwise, any graduated students from University should be easy to pass, why still so many failed? So, it becomes training certers' business. (Though we can choose to the center or not.) Otherwise, should you say education in colleges or universities are not qualified?
Therefore, except those who are beginners to Java, I should not be wrong if I say get certificate just cerfiticate, it "also" proves you how good you have dealt with tricks or traps...
So, let me clear it, SCJP should test people the basic knowledge of Java and good programming style of thinking and behavior, (and with one test will be enough! This is design problem.) it's not necessary to play tricks. (or second test to make their own profit.) Life is too short, I would like to save time to play with code instead of cramming my head for tricks.
I would be glad to hear from anybody...
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Sun Certified Java Programmer 2
[This message has been edited by Roger Chiang (edited March 14, 2001).]

Sometimes, OK! just sometimes, when I think why we need to take the test? (TEST1, TEST2, TEST3,..) Basically the answer is quite clear than the real test. But, OK! just but, when I, or most of us, try to choose several books to read (for what? of course, for higher grade or at least for passing, right?!), I found it's wild that the Qs in the book from sun's web site (or, another one, like JQ+...) looks like twin with the real test. It means that buy this book (or, SW) it guarantee you'll pass the test, or even get a higher score. And they allow themselves make this kind of money, but do not allow us to circulate the Qs from our ancentors...!? (They do not allow us to make use of Information Technology to be IT programmer. Is it ridiculus?!) Does that mean..., OK! just does that mean, if through commercial behaviour, we can circulate our ancestors' harvest. If this is the CASE, HI! MY DEAR ANCESTORS!!!, Pleeeese SEND YOUR SWEET Qs TO ME, I'LL COllECT IT FOR YOU AND MAKE PROFIT AND LET'S SHARE!!!
Here, I want to ASK: Who can justify SCJP2 appropriately?

Hi!Alex:
Could you tell me which book(s) or web site included in your preparation for SCJD? How to prepare will be most cleanly and directly to achieve the target? Where I can sample test Qs except Sun's?
I'm interested in this certificate and hope I can pass it next year. Thank you for your help in advance!
Roger

Hi! Ajith :
Could you let me know how you prepare for IBM xml certificate?
I have some question already post in another stand-alone topic.
I' m currenty very interested in this part, please give me advice as much as you can. Thank you very much in advance!!
Sincerely,
Roger

Can anybody tell me an easy process to learn XML if based on IBM XML certificate?
Such as:
>>> Choose which book(s) will be enough to get all knowledge about XML (no more than three).
>>> What situation do I need to use which SW to run?
>>> Where can I find sample test in addition to IBM's? Thank a lot!