Andy Rodriguez

Try my favorite, from the house of Enhydra , kSOAP.
http://ksoap.enhydra.org/index.html More stuff at :
http://www.enhydra.org

Sorry mate , ebXml's future is already kind of written on the wall ...
To quote "Ultimately, the main reason Rawlins expects a fate of failure for ebXML is because the specifications don’t cater to the small-to-medium sized business, which was the development team’s original intention. And furthermore, says Rawlins, the ebXML architectures lack the level of interoperability to provide long-term value."
ebXML was a innovative project , but not many people seem to think that it has a future :
http://www.esj.com/webservices/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=74

Originally posted by Doug Wang:

Hi, Andy
ebXML can be a successor of EDI. You could see my explanations in this thread and this thread. Although ebXML has a long run to mature, web services related tenologies such as SOAP, UDDI are promoting its maturity.
I guess SOAP programming covered by Bill's book is to dominate the future's programming.

Doug

True , nothing as of today exists which can emulate x12 EDI , Edifact or anything coming close to this . Data format however is defacto. QoS is being worked upon and same with transactions (wsfl) and security issues , which is the main reason for skeptic press.

Originally posted by Latha Kalaga:
I just can not picture that consumers/businesses interfacing with 'web service providers' with out any prior negotiations on pricing, structure, and data format.
Also none of the information from UDDI or WSDL inform the consumer about the Quality of Service -

May i also suggest : http://www.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=51&t=000122
And also : http://www.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=51&t=000039

More on Aleksey's point , the IBM article on Performance testingdetails the "points of failure" ( refer figure 2).
And in terms of numbers , the article on S-O-A ( next hip thing according to gartner )vincihas references to how SOAP , RMI fared on a head to head test
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As a business model - probably not , i dont think its going to replace any of the existing EDI infrastructure either. But as an application integration facilitator i am certainly not skeptical.

More here : http://www.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=51&t=000074

Refer to Cape clear website for the credentials in production and also to section "other examples in brief" of this Article

Still haven't gotten around to reading Webmethod's latest paper on webservices security , but found this one which is interesting ..
http://www.line56.com/articles/default.asp?NewsID=3309

http://www.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=51&t=000122
And i can't find the URL of the first ever thread on this forum ...

I am not a skeptic - Are you still skeptical ?
http://www.line56.com/articles/default.asp?NewsID=3305

The point is that the IP CAN BE tracked back to the user if the user "posts" - if the poster is part of the last 20 visitors ie., And what is the benefit of exposing the IP's anyway ? even though we claim not to do it intentionally .
The whole point being - tracking stats is supposed to be a webmasters tool and aid in analysis of that particular site for the webmaster , is it worth being a public domain info ?
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I can certainly vouch for this - http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/subjects/computing.htm
Dont know about arizona one , keep getting spammed about a lot of degree online stuff by arizona in my inbox -however never bothered to check the authenticity of them.
PS : super noodles rock
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Where can i find the ranch newsletter archives ? I am subscribing for the 2002 letter , but wanted to look at the older ones as well

Don't want to say elementary watson - but it's easy enough to track and associate a user to an ip , if there is a posting.
And to cindy's point - what if i am not using AOL ?and using DSL / proxy ?
I am not crying out about disclosure of ip's ,but i think its a good practice to NOT disclose the ip's and demographic information- for the benefits of the forum.
My main concerns are with
1) Data security
{ I know that the site doesn't belong to a self regulatory ...} but still - http://www.ntia.doc.gov/reports/privacydraft/198dftprin.htm
2) viable commercial value lost by disclosing a company related info ( via proxy info ) / demographic information .

Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
Ahh but what isn't given out is a mapping of username - IP address ... we know what IP address have been used to access the site but we don't know who uses them!