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Peter Ku wrote:I found out that it will be published on August, 15th
Hopefully it will be cheaper on

Can't wait...

£30 at amazon at the moment so may be going with the boo repository. My work will hopefully pay for it anyway...
Thanks for all the advice guys. Think I'm going to go for OCMJD (assuming they haven't changed their minds) and hopefully if I have some spare time start playing with java enterprise. Maybe they'll pay for them too but if not they're no where near as pricey to fund myself.

It'll now take 3 months to get it approved probably...

Didn't realise the course once attended can be used for both too. That's good news.

My work are actually offering to pay for me to go through certification (inc mandatory course) and at the moment, I can choose any of them. I have already done the OCPJP SE6. My experience in Java (mostly swing, no enterprise) is around 10 years off and on as we use C++ too. C++ server, java clients. So which one do you think I should go for.

On one hand, the OCMJD would firm up my knowledge but OCMJEA would make me learn something new. I'm not certain I'll be able to do one then the other (cost). My concern about doing OCMJEA is that I haven't dabbled with Java EE at all so should I try and do the OCP certifications first? But then my work may not offer for me to do the OCMJE? If i still is better to go for a OCP in Java EE, what order are they worth doing in based on my experience. I think that EJB will not be worth doing as we tend to use spring more, perhaps in the future we'd look to replace the C++ server side with Java based ones and maybe go towards thinner clients rather than swing based ones.

My other concern with OCMJEA is that it's Java EE 5 so it's quite dated but I guess if the fundementals haven't changed it's still worth doing. I have read some of the discussions about decline in popularity of the certification since the introduction of the mandatory courses.

Any thoughts?

I did try a few searches to see if this had been discussed before.

Thanks for the advice.
I also had a similar reply from Oracle as I'm thinking about the Java tuning course as it's looks to be one of the more useful ones to do

Roel De Nijs wrote:

Mike Smyth wrote:Anyone have any advice on this, has anyone here actually done a mandatory course looking towards Developer certification?

I think this thread contains some valuable information.

thanks for that. I also got a reply from Oracle saying something similar. I'm looking at the Java tuning course as a possibility
looks to me that it's out 31 May 2012 (in uk according to amazon at least) still debating what to do next after OCPJP, may look at this ias it seems to be the only one with a dedicated study guide. Will be my first venture into EE, I've only ever worked with core / desktop java...
I'm not sure my work would pay for a new laptop for me ;-)

I've been asked to look into this from my work as a few of us have recently done our programmer exams. From looking at the certification paths and courses it seems that ultimately I still have to do one of the fundamentals courses. Initially I thought I may just be able to do the Java SE 7 New Features course or the Java SE Performance Tuning course but each of these courses have pre-requisites of another course. This can mean the difference of paying $900 or $2250 and the courses vary in length and this time would also have to be paid for. Also from what I can see, the self study CDs do not count so I would need to either do Live virtual teaching or classroom.

Anyone have any advice on this, has anyone here actually done a mandatory course looking towards Developer certification?
I think your correct, you can think of the synchronized keyword on a method as simply being like having a synchronised block on the particular object say using "this" surrounding the entire method. I suspect that the book is getting at the fact that you don't need to synchronize on any object if you use the synchronized keyword for a method and by doing this it uses the "built-in lock".

Hope this helps,
Took it today, passed with 96%. Thanks to Bates/Sierra books (the study guide and practice exams) which really toughened me up for the exam. Also did the mock exam you can purchase through oracle )you get two exams for £44 in the UK). Found the real exam was much quicker than the mock ones (in the practice exam book) because it tells you how many answers are correct for a given question. The oracle ones were of similar difficulty so they give you a good indication of where you are.

I can now start playing on my xbox agan, Yeah!

9 years ago