Tony Jaa

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Abhilash Sharma wrote:I am OCPJP 6 and OCEJWCD EE6 Certified. After doing my certifications I was searching for job in Java Developer profile for around 2 months but didn't have any luck(as I know it is hard to get a job for a fresher in this pprofile). I have been offered a Java Automation Engineer post. They are using Selenium tool. Package is good or I can say it is same as Java Developer for that company. Just want to know what will be the future of Java Automation.Is this the right track for me. I heard that in Automation they only going to use core java. Is Automation engineers considers as Testers(Software Testing). I love all the JSP/SERVLETS STUFF.But I didn't have any problem in this area as well but just want know how things will go in future.



Hey ! I am curious to know if your employer actually feels that your certifications are valuable. I have a OCJP 6 cert too, but i dont think that it is valued in the industry. Everyone asked me technical questions and Q's related to my projects.
No one even cared if I had these certifications. What about you?

11 years ago
I am hearing this a lot. IT companies have a "lot" of vacancies but they are having a hard time finding enough candidates. I feel it could be correct. I am seeing a lot of job ads and getting some replies. But, the main problem is that most of the jobs require 20+ qualifications (ok, that is an exaggeration, but it is not far from the truth). Most job ad requirements look like - html, css, javascript, ruby, php, python, mysql, asp.net, ajax, excellent management skills, 5 years experience, <insert other jargon here>

I understand that some jobs need many qualifications and experience. But if most jobs have such high requirements, then how will companies be able to fill such vacancies? Sometimes i wonder if the requirements are realistic. Maybe they could actually do with a guy who satisfies half the requirements.

Do we all need to have a CV like this guy to get a job?
Bozhidar Bozhanov

11 years ago
Old post. Bert please save us from the few devilishly confusing and boring books in the market. Please hake HF spring. It will be an instant hit.
If you do, then please consider including a couple of sample projects and problems in it.


11 years ago

Mike Simmons wrote:

Tony Jaa wrote:If ethics is SO IMPORTANT to you, then why don't you put it (ie ethics course) before HTML5, CSS, Javascript, PHP and MySQL in the job requirements?


Tony, it sounds like you are arguing with someone here. Who? Note that this thread is almost a year old.



That is right. I was arguing with all the people who feel that courses on ethics are important at a college level. I think its ok if your employer pays for it and you get courses that are customized according to your industry.
11 years ago

Paul Anilprem wrote:Standards of ethical behavior vary across countries, places, and cultures. I think it is a very good idea to learn and adopt ethical standards of the place where you are living and/or working. Sometimes an otherwise ethical person may unknowingly engage in an act that is considered unethical in the place he is in. And it doesn't take much for an unethical act to cross over to the unlawful acts territory.

I remember a long time back I was interviewing a person and he turned out to be from my town. At the end of the the interview, we were just chatting and I casually asked whether he was married and my manager later told me that that was not an appropriate question.

So again, my humble suggestion is to learn whatever you can from this course. Don't argue with it. It is a good thing.



Not really a serious ethics situation. Just a social customs question.
11 years ago

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Some companies offer their own ethics training. Just because it isn't in the job requirements, doesn't mean it isn't valued.



That, I would be willing to take. It is highly probable that it will be customized according to my needs as a developer.

11 years ago

fred rosenberger wrote:Why "must" you take an ethics class? I assume you are in some program where you are getting a degree or certificate of some kind, and the school requires it. My guess is that it is required for many, many programs, not just the one you are in.

Further, my company has more lawyers than I can count. In 6.5 years here, I have never, ever seen one or even talked to one. I make many ethical decisions every day that have serious implications long-term that the lawyers never see. If I had to consult them for each and every one, my productivity would drop to about ZERO.



Can you give me an example of a hard ethical situation where you would not have been able to come to a good judgment if you had not taken an ethics course?
11 years ago

Bear Bibeault wrote:I weep for a world where ethics are "somebody else's job".


Save those tears for another thing. There are lawyers to help you with all that.
11 years ago

Ulf Dittmer wrote:An education isn't just about getting you a better resume, its primarily about making you a better person.



Its good to be a "better person". But there are so many better, rational and "ethical" thinkers out there who have not taken any ethics courses.
One does not need ethics courses to be a better person. My boss is an excellent example, at least in the eyes of many employees in my company.
I asked him and he told me that he never really took that course seriously and just managed to pass. But his tech and mba grades were "good".
Thats what got him the job in the company. His ethical behavior (among other things) ensured that he got to keep his job.


11 years ago

Ulf Dittmer wrote:Adhering to ethics doesn't need to be mentioned in job requirements because it's an implicit requirement for any job out there under the sun. Come to think of it, it's an inherent requirement for being a decent human being. It's particularly relevant for IT professionals because they tend to have access to lots of sensitive data. An ethics course may not get you a better job, but it may well make you a better professional. Being fallible human beings we can all use a reminder of this every now and then.



But the grim reality is that it costs money and adds no tangible value to my resume. I would not care if it was free of cost
11 years ago
I just made a post related to ethics right now. If ethics is SO IMPORTANT to you, then why don't you put it (ie ethics course) before HTML5, CSS, Javascript, PHP and MySQL in the job requirements?
How do you even measure the ethical standards of a person? How does a course help you to measure their standard?

Its a lot like love. You choose someone who seems to be fine. Then you date them to find out if they are really good. In the same way, you employ someone suitable who has no crime record. If they do something bad in the company, then
you decide how to respond.

11 years ago

Tim Moores wrote:A good introduction to moral dilemmas in general if you can spare 23 minutes: http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/documentaries/2010/05/100423_will_you_kill_big_guy_one.shtml



Silly example. You can make up many such situations.
11 years ago
I am attending part time college in which I must take a mandatory ethics course. Its boring as $%#@ and costs a lot too. Yes, it can serve as a guide in situations where one has to make ethical judgments.
But, what is the use of all that? Don't companies have lawyers for handling the "ethics" situations? Then, why do I, as an IT guy need to delve into ethics?

Its nice to know, but nobody cares about ethics courses. They may care about "ethical standards and behavior", but not about courses. Name AT LEAST 10 job advertisements that require the applicant to have
taken an ethics course(s), especially in the IT field. I see C#, ASP.net, JS, Ruby, Java, SQL a lot in job requirements, but no ethics.

Doesn't that speak tons about the true value of ethics courses in the industry? What is more important to you as an employer - guys who can do the job or guys who may not be as good, but got top grade in ethics course?
No amount of ethics courses can change human nature. There are people who take course on ethics in their programs at big colleges and still commit multi-million dollar frauds.

11 years ago

Greg Charles wrote:I think it's pretty common for "knowing someone" to give a leg up into getting hired. Companies receive piles of resumes, many of which contain exaggerations or outright lies. They need a way to cull these resumes, and having a personal recommendation by someone inside the company is one of those ways.

Is it ethical? That depends on the situation. It's certainly ethical for a manager to weight a personal recommendation above, say, a high GPA. If there is some sort of quid pro quo going on ... a kickback to the manager, for example ... then it would be unethical.



I am tossing my resume into a trash can and heading to the nearest hangout spot (coffee house, bar etc) near a fortune 500
11 years ago
I heard of two cases where people got jobs at a fortune 500 company through the "backdoor" . Let me explain. These two guys had minimal skills and there were more qualified candidates in the competition. But, these two guys knew some employees well. So, their resumes were pushed up the "hiring ladder" and they got the jobs.
The job opening availability was removed much earlier than its listed date, not giving many others a chance to even reach it. At first glance this seems to be a case of employee referral, so it could be considered ethical.

But these two guys actually learned some of the REQUIRED (NOT nice to have or optional) skills on the job. I don't know if they faked those skills in the resume and were lucky enough not to be asked questions related to those skills (perhaps because the skills were important, but not the core skills needed for the job). That is where I have a question. Is the act of hiring people like this ethical? Is it common?

Source: Friend who works in that company at a senior position.
11 years ago