Peter Pilgrim

An Update

I got reply from Gary Fluitt, Certification Manager, Sun Microsystems

He apologise for the quality of the certificate, at least the way it was sent. He said that he had not heard of this complaint before. He pointed that Sun got the opposite treatment, because people expressed environment concerns about shipping paper certificatates around the world.

I tend to agreed him, admittedly. This is view that I had not considered at all and I take it all back critising Sun on this regard.


Gary posed the question that the solution that probably Sun will proceed with, is to send an electronic certificate in PDF format by email to the future candidates at the conclusion of their tests. (NB: This is not yet set in stone).

Now here is an idea that I totally agree with, because it gives the candidate the option of paying for a delux edition.

Gary suggested that inside the email, a candidate would find an URL where they could order high resolution certificate with an gold foil embossed seal on heavy card stock print. So candidates woul be able to get a high quality certificates. Finally he suggested that he may make the nominal cost of the deluxe certificate free-of-charge to newly qualified enterprise architects. This program go live in the Summer months of 2008.

Laters!

Originally posted by jeremias lacanienta:


our certs came from china? i just hope they don't contain lead. i forgot to wash my hands when i touched them.

Obviously the question is, how does one actually qualify the SCEA 5 exam. If one values it greatly and gracious enough then, probably, one might like to display a better certificate.

Why do dentist and medical practitioner display their certificates to customers? Why can't we as Java enterprise architects do the same?
[ March 06, 2008: Message edited by: Peter Pilgrim ]

Originally posted by Theodore Casser:
Please. If only the worst problem any of us in the world had was the "quality " of the certificate.

Be grateful that we get certificates - MS only gives you one for the first certification of a given level that you pass, and IBM doesn't give you any anymore (afaik), but rather both companies expect you to print out certificates if you want them.

Fine. I can accept the paper certificate, but we should be given the option of paying for a better quality certificate for the SCEA (the highest Sun Java certification)

So do you have a degree from a college or a university?
Have study for a foreign language after a college or obtain adult learning credentials?
If yes, then what are the types of certificates of those credentials?

BUT KEEP THIS THREAD THOUGH.
Sorry my Firefox browser crashed.

Originally posted by Peter Pilgrim:
Hello

I received my certificate pack yesterday, which was great. It contained the SCEA badge pin, Sun Certified Professional identity card, letter and the certificate, but I was really disappointed with the postage packing and quality of the certificate.
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Finally, because I do not mind at all paying for it, is there any way of buying a better quality certificate?

Thanks in advance

(CC'd to who2contact@sun.com)

Hello

I received my certificate pack yesterday, which was great. It contained the SCEA badge pin, Sun Certified Professional identity card, letter and the certificate, but I was really disappointed with the postage packing and quality of the certificate.

First, the postage package was not good, because it was sent inside bubble wrap envelope. The certificate was not completely protected, because the studs of badge pin actually imprinted on to the certificate paper. Second the quality of the certificate itself was distinctly poor.

The certificate arrived creased slightly, because it was folded onto underside of the protective card during shipping. The quality of the certificate should have been much better for SCEA exams for all the effort we have put into the studies. I know for the beta program we did not to pay for the exams (does this mean proper SCEA participant will receive better certificates than the beta participants?)

Apart from the dark teal header, which says "Sun(tm) Certification).", the Java Logo is monotone. The backing paper is just ordinary weighted white paper (100 / 120 gsm?). The signatures of the Jonathan Schwartz and Karie Willyerd are all ok. The spacing of the text is ok, but sorry I cannot help to feel a little sorry for the BETA certificate that we have all received.

When I compare this certificate to others that I have seen it looks distinctly bland. Some educational certificates are printed on metallic almost crystal paper card. The actual logo or exam body of those types of certificates denotes instantly a higher quality, an accreditation from a higher institution, the lettering also on those are often printed as reflective silver ink. Sometimes the educational title is also embossed/beveled on the certificate so that the certification/grade stands out.

In conclusion, I am rather annoyed that the certificate is not suitable for frame in my office, at least. Can this situation be rectified?


(*) I would have loved to have seen the Java Logo printed on such metallic paper.

(*) I would love to see the Sun printed bevel in metallic silver ink.

(*) I would also love to see a full official Java logo embossed in to the card.

Most definitely, the actual wording of "Peter A Pilgrim" and "Sun Certified Enterprise Architect" should have been printed as silver embossed ink.

Finally, because I do not mind at all paying for it, is there any way of buying a better quality certificate?

Thanks in advance

(CC'd to who2contact@sun.com)

Originally posted by Paul Croarkin:
I received my certificate today in the mail.

I have yet to receive my certificate.

What can you do if you may accidentally deleted the email as spam?
Who does one contact in order to re-send the certificate and logos?

Originally posted by Paul Croarkin:
I received my certificate today in the mail.

I have not received a certification email yet.

What can you do if one accidentally deletes it as spam?
Who can I contact?

Cheers!

Originally posted by Paul Croarkin:
I received my certificate today in the mail.

I have not received a certification email yet.

What can you do if one accidentally deletes it as spam?
Who can I contact?

Cheers!

Originally posted by Jorge Lopez Sherman:
I passed too!! No scores mentioned, but it's a great achievement!

Hi

Congratulations All!!

I also passed the Sun Certified Java Architect Beta 5!!


Any one get the scores at all yet?
How do you download the SCEA Postscript Logos and TIFF graphics?
I going to design a brand new business card with Illustrator when I get the materials.


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Dear Peter (Certification ID#: ************)

Congratulations on completing all the requirements for the
Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for the Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 5 certification. You were certified on 12/21/2007.

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PS: Had I failed, I would have taken the second and third parts again, because I felt it was well worth the exercise. At least it has solidified a couple more design pattern and the UML notation in my head. Kudos to the Jude/UML Community edition, brilliant software too. I will probably considering paying the guy who developed it by buying a license of him, whenever I get my a new engagement.

Best.

Originally posted by Cameron Wallace McKenzie:
Just got my email, sent out at 12:43pm, Eastern Time.

It says "Congratulations on completing all the requirements." I was like "I know I completed them. I want to know if I PASSED them!" But apparently, completed means passed, so I'm good.



Don't know what my scores are, but I'm happy. I'll have to see if I can log into that Prometric Site, only I don't know the details of my exam.

This is so good. I mean, I couldn't really write the SCEA JEE5 Certification Study Guide if I failed.

Stocks are up, lost a lb on the scale this morning, books are selling well, and I'm SCEA certified - it's turning into a very good day.

-Cameron McKenzie

[ February 19, 2008: Message edited by: Cameron Wallace McKenzie ]

Dear Peter (Certification ID#: *************)
)
Congratulations on completing all the requirements for the
Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for the Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 5 certification. You were certified on 12/21/2007.

I passed as well!!!
I do not know my passing scores yet.

Congratulations to All of You who are now SUN CERTIFIED ENTERPRISE ARCHITECT 5!!!

Originally posted by Cameron Wallace McKenzie:
Just got my email, sent out at 12:43pm, Eastern Time.

It says "Congratulations on completing all the requirements." I was like "I know I completed them. I want to know if I PASSED them!" But apparently, completed means passed, so I'm good.



Don't know what my scores are, but I'm happy. I'll have to see if I can log into that Prometric Site, only I don't know the details of my exam.

This is so good. I mean, I couldn't really write the SCEA JEE5 Certification Study Guide if I failed.

Stocks are up, lost a lb on the scale this morning, books are selling well, and I'm SCEA certified - it's turning into a very good day.

-Cameron McKenzie

[ February 19, 2008: Message edited by: Cameron Wallace McKenzie ]

Dear Peter (Certification ID#: *************)
)
Congratulations on completing all the requirements for the
Sun Certified Enterprise Architect for the Java Platform, Enterprise Edition 5 certification. You were certified on 12/21/2007.

I passed as well!!!
I do not know my passing scores yet.

Congratulations to All of You who are now SUN CERTIFIED ENTERPRISE ARCHITECT 5!!!

Originally posted by Deepak Kanwar:
You can inject EJBs or any resource into servlets - you can inject EJB 3 stateless and stateful session beans, EJB 2.1 Home, DataSource, ORB, UserTransaction, javamail session, JMS ConnectionFactory, JMS Queue, JMS Topic, etc. etc.

You can not inject resources into classes which are "not managed" by container like normal javabeans but servlets are container managed so you can.

You should probably look at on-line resources on JPA and annotations.

One thing I do not understand from a UML point of view is how does one represent annotations?

It is not a generalisation, but a kind of mark-up. In C# they call their concept of annotations, actually, attributes. I think this is a big clue, but I do not know the correct UML form for sure.
[ November 28, 2007: Message edited by: Peter Pilgrim ]

Originally posted by Cameron McKenzie:
In an effort not to hijack this thread, which started out on a completely different topic, I started a new thread about which J2EE design patterns are now considered obsolete, and which ones might be most pertinent to a successful JEE 5 architecture, and for that matter, passing the SCEA 5 beta.

New JavaRanch Thread: Which J2EE Design Patterns are Obsolete - Which are more important than ever?

I'd love to organize your thoughts on the topic in that thread.


Thanks.

-Cameron McKenzie

Hi All

Yes, I think this is all helpful information for an architect. I am imagining mentoring junior programmers on a project and basically I would ask myself, how do I communicate the design and architecture to the other members of the team.

How much understanding do they have?
How much understanding do they need to have to complete their tasks?
How much understanding do I have of the business requirements?
How much detail do I need to show?
What are my trade-offs?

For example if do not need to show a hundred interfaces then I wont do it.
I will show basic abstractions and types but keep it simple as possible. In other word I do not have to program or design everything, because I hope I am becoming the architect. Design is always at a level lower than architecture is any case. And this advice doesn't break the confidentially agreement with Sun.

I just want to know how does one represent annotations in UML notation?

TIA
[ November 28, 2007: Message edited by: Peter Pilgrim ]

Hi

I took the SCEA 5 Beta Part 1 last Monday. I felt did well enough even though the EJB 3 / JPA / WebServices annotation is still new to me. When the clients depend on a WebLogic 8.1 server or WebSphere 6 server then you cannot possibly attempt the latest and greatest on company time, but that's another story ...

"Assignment (Part II) Beta Dates: November 21st - December 26th, 2007

In order to proceed to Part II you must have passed the multiple choice part. Prometric will send you an email, if you passed, on how to proceed with Part II, the assignment. You will have 25 days to complete the assignment. After you have completed the assignment, please do NOT hesitate to take Part III, the essay, to complete your beta certification."


Has anyone yet started the assignment?

TIA

Originally posted by Jose Luis Iturbide:
Hi everybody!

I just registered yesterday (sep 21), my exam will be at october 22.
In the prometric site, the exam SCEA5 is the last option of select box.

There isn't appointments in my prefered testing center (Mexico city), i have to choose another.

Hurry up.

bye

[ September 22, 2007: Message edited by: Jose Luis Iturbide ]

Hi

I registered successfully on Monday morning 24th September using the Prometric Site. I choose a country and state, then choose Sun Microsystem and finally chose a test centre.

My exam is in London at XPertise Training Ltd, 75 King William Street, the very same place I took the SCJ2P five years ago. My first SCEA exam takes place on 15 October 2007 starting at 12:45. Is this correct that the exam last four hours and fifteen minutes?

Looking forward it. Know I must study. Good luck all
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