Sharma Anjali

Originally posted by KJ Reddy:

But I seen people not having much understanding about basic concepts even they have certifcation. So certification is a plus point but the interviewer cant depend on certification completely.

I totally agree. There are lot of people who clear certification by using dumps and hence they don't get much knowledge. So interviewers can't totally depend on certs.

Originally posted by KJ Reddy:


I dont agree with this. I dont have certification but when I am interviewing a person with certification I do ask very few basic concepts. I will take less time to interview a person with certification then a person without certification.

Good to know that you give some value to certs. Unfortunately, I have never come across an interviewer who gave any importance to certs, in the 6-7 interviews that I have given. But if I ever have to interview someone I'll certainly consider a certification as a plus since I know its a lot of hard work to get one.

Originally posted by Chetan Parekh:


Hum Hindustani

[ August 17, 2005: Message edited by: Chetan Parekh ]

Thanks a lot.

>>Does mark matter a lot, I mean shall I try too hard and try and get too high score or rather than say waiting for month go and get cert.
IMHO Certs and marks both don't matter, but the knowledge you gain while preparing for these certs definetely matter.

>>What score is reasonable?
Good score doesn't hurt. I scored 100% in OCP,SCJP and 96% in SCWCD but no one gave a second look at it. But its not causing me harm in any way. Knowledge gained in the process definetely helped me.

>>One more is it always true that big companies do not give credential to certificate?
From my experience no one cares about certs, be it a small or a big company. Others may have different exp.

>>After cert what shall I learn .net or j2ee (servlet/jsp/ejb)
>>I did take course in both but what should I focus on?

Both are equally good. Depends on your interest. Don't know about dot net but as a fresher good knowledge of Core Java, Servlets and JSP will be more than sufficient to get into a good company. No one asks EJB questions from freshers provided you have not written in your resume.

HTH
[ August 17, 2005: Message edited by: Sharma Anjali ]

Originally posted by Varun Khanna:


HCL, Sapient, Accenture and now IBM
wow Great !!!

Thanks a lot.
In todays market anyone can get a job in a branded company. But I want to make sure that I land up in good company, doing good work so that when the market is not as good as it is now, I may still be in a position to find a decent job. So work is a major concern for me. Not thinking too much about salary.
[ August 17, 2005: Message edited by: Sharma Anjali ]

Originally posted by Siddhartha:


In terms of Brand : IBM ->Sapient -> HCL
In terms of Money : whichever pay closer to 3.8 - 4 lac

There is no doubt IBM is the topmost brand. But I feel, more than the brand its the work you do. IMHO no one will hire a person just because that person happens to come from IBM. Brand has a lot of good value but only upto a certain point after that the candidates knowledge matters.
I don't know if my information is correct or not but I have heard IBM is not doing good work in its Gurgaon center. Also they may not put me in any particular domain. On the face of it Content Management Domain in HCL looks good. Although I have no clue whats happening inside the ECMP department in HCL.

Originally posted by Chetan Parekh:
Chhodo kal ki baatein, kal ki baat puraani
Naye daur mein likhenge milkar nayi kahaani
Hum hindustani, hum hindustani
Aaj puraani zanjeeron ko tod chuke hain
Kya dekhe us manzil ko jo chhod chuke hain
Chaand ke dar pe jaa pahuncha hai aaj zamaana
Naye jagat se hum bhi naata jod chuke hain
Naya khoon hai, nayi umangein, ab hai nayi jawaani
Hum hindustani
Chhodo kal ki baatein, kal ki baat puraani
Naye daur mein likhenge milkar nayi kahaani
Hum hindustani, hum hindustani
Aao mehnat ko apna imaan banaaye
Apne haathon ko apna bhagwaan banaaye
Ram ki is dharti ko gautam ki bhoomi ko
Sapnon se bhi pyaara hindustan banaaye
Naya khoon hai, nayi umangein, ab hai nayi jawaani
Hum hindustani
Chhodo kal ki baatein, kal ki baat puraani
Naye daur mein likhenge milkar nayi kahaani
Hum hindustani, hum hindustani
Har zarra hai moti, aankh uthaakar dekho
Maati mein sona hai, haath badhaakar dekho
Sone ki yeh ganga hai, chaandi ki yamuna
Chaaho to patthar pe dhaan ugaakar dekho
Naya khoon hai, nayi umangein, ab hai nayi jawaani
Hum hindustani, hum hindustani
Chhodo kal ki baatein, kal ki baat puraani
Naye daur mein likhenge milkar nayi kahaani
Hum hindustani, hum hindustani

[ August 16, 2005: Message edited by: Chetan Parekh ]

Can you please tell me the name of the movie.

Originally posted by Mani Ram:


When you say gun, I assume you mean a long gun, like a Rifle or a Musket, for it will be very difficult to use a hand gun (pistol) like a sword

It is not unusual for soldiers to use the guns like a sword in very close ranges. In fact, it is more effective that way. Ask someone who has served in military.

True. Final battle is won by hand to hand combat, where guns are used as swords. People who saw PVC on DD should know

Originally posted by Pavan Tummala:
IBM

Thanks for replying.
Any specific reason for your choice?

Got an offer from HCL(ECMP division Gurgaon) and IBM Global services(Gurgaon). IBM is paying similar to HCL and has a better brand name. In HCL most probably I'll be working on FileNet (may be Documentum), so the content management domain looks good to me. In IBM no clue what I'll get. But I have heard they have some maintenence work in Gurgaon.
What do ranchers recommend IBM or HCL?

Thanks again
[ August 16, 2005: Message edited by: Sharma Anjali ]

Originally posted by Sampige Malleswaram:

All Bollywood people do anything for money.No mistake there.Aishwarya may be a heart throb of few java programmers here but in reality she is fit in Kamathipura.

[ August 16, 2005: Message edited by: Sampige Malleswaram ]

Whats Kamathipura?

Originally posted by Ram Munshi:
It seems nobody is interested to give reply for this thread.Ranchers please reply.

Ram

May be nobody knows about Versant

Originally posted by nithin nambiar:
thatz true.
you dont generally get onsite opportunites within a yr of joining ,unless there is really some urgent requirement. in these cases they send u on a business visa.
onsite opprts depends on the kind of project you are working on and also a bit of luck is required. there are lot of people who have got arnd 3 opprtns in a year and also some people who havent got any in 3 years.
there are good number of IIM-A and IIT graduate's working there ,so you will learn a lot interacting with them.it suites people who are very young and unmarried who doesn't have to think annything aprt from work.
also pace of work is very hectic and lot of people find themselves lost.

hope this will help u eliminate ur confusion .

Thanks a lot. Your input has been extremely useful.

Originally posted by Siddhartha Siddhartha:


About Onsite Opportunities @ Sapient ??
Can anyone throw some light on this ??

Thanks for your input.
As far as I know they don't send a person onsite before 1 year. Earlier the the min time one needed to stay in the company before one became eligible to go onsite was 6 months but recently they changed the peroid to 1 year.

Originally posted by nithin nambiar:
so what did u decide ?

still confused
Actually I have not been able to find any information about ECMP(Enterprise Content Management and Potals) group in HCL where I'll be posted. Once I get some information about this group I'll be able to decide something.

Thanks

Originally posted by KJ Reddy:


Its all depends how do you take the things. If you exposure to different technologies it will be helpful for you when you are moving up in the organization. When you became Project Leader/Project Manager you know different technologies and you have confidence of handling any technology related project. When things go down you can jump into any technology which is having more demand. Morever now a days in many projects you need multiple skills. Some requirements are looking for multiple skills like Mainframes and Java, Database skills and Java. Especially when there is a conversion project like converting VB code into Java its advantage knowing both VB and Java. If you are interested in Java still you can work in other technologies but keep an eye in Java too, that helps you.

Thanks for replying.
I totally agree being a geenralist has a lot of advantages. But what I'd like to know is how these companies manage to do some of the things for which specialists are required. Say designing an application which is huge in size and complexity. I am not a sure a generalist who has not worked in a particular technology for more than 1 year can design an Enterprise Java application which involves complex J2EE technologies as mentioned above.